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[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Expect this from corpo-slop. This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They're complicit, and they should be standing next to this admin against the wall after the fallout.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

the msms owners are mostly trump supporters. besides obvious fox, cnn was the template to make it foxlite to trick would be boomers/xers on the fence politically, but not intuitively to actually verify said news.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

This is New America, where all legacy media bent to threats from a despot instead of doing their fucking jobs. They're complicit

Buddy have you every read a history book in your life? This isnt new at all

William Fox (who was a monumental bastard of the highest order) went to prison in the 1940s because he thought FDR would allow him to monopolize the film industry in return for helping to convince Americans to join the war effort. Fox founded the March of Dimes. Yes, that was the original "Fox News" I guess you could say.

So what's happening isn't the new America, it's the old America with the worst possible person in charge. Ever since I could vote, I've been voting for FDR even though I know that's not what I'm going to get. If anything good comes out of this disaster, it will be that an Obama-like figure (I don't give a shit what anybody thinks of him, he was objectively a very good president and historians will remember him as such) will win an election and be able to get things done with an FDR-like mandate. Trump has really opened the hatches for all kinds of horrible backlash.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 91 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The revolution will not be televised

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 18 hours ago

it was pretty clear how fast they try to steer of away from bad news making class issues more prominent, when luigi news was suppressed just after 2 weeks of his capture. on reddit, before i came to lemmy, last dec reddit was trying very hard to suppress posts about him, and tried to bombard the msms with trump only news.

because the less attention that trump gets on the air, the more people are going to realize he doesnt really do anything without being on air.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 227 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes. That's why protests are successful in places like France, because they repeat until it's no longer possible to ignore.

Edit: Cleaned up that last line.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Okay, now do it every weekend until something changes

Americans on both sides of the political theater have long since given over agency to fantasy ideas about "someone coming" or someone is going to "do something" or that "nothing ever happens." It's why we have Trump and why nobody has done anything about him.

We are far, far from uncomfortable enough to sacrifice our weekends every week to go stand in the sun. We are the wealthiest nation, and thus the most comfortable in our routines.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Protests are successful in places like France because they carry with them the implicit threat that the elites will sonner or later have their heads separated from their shoulders if they don't address the concerns of the rest of the population.

Meanwhile in the US there is not even the risk of the economic damage of a General Strike, much less of the physical integrity of those who actually control how the country is managed.

Several million Americans walking around in their own time holding boards decrying the current puppet of the elites ain't going to scare the elites into letting go of some of their power.

The murder by a single individual of a Healthcare Insurance company CEO had more concrete impact than this march of millions of Americans ever will.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago

thats why they worked very quickly to suppress news about luigi, it also took them a month to come out with a way to propagandize against him.

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 112 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah, this is crucial here. We also had large protests in Germany last year. Once, maybe twice. Then everyone went home and let the fascists continue to take more influence and the supposed center followed suit and now the country has shifted significantly to the far right and the minister of interior is in open defiance of the courts to abuse refugee seekers.

You have to protest every week and if your demands are not met you have to escalate protests. That includes things like striking, blocking the police/ICE thugs from carrying out their oppressive missions but will also need you to fight back, if you are attacked.

Not keeping up the pressure now would be a great blunder, unfortunately one that many "liberals" or "social democrats" love to fall into.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They also burn things in France.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Like Waymos?

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They also blockade the ports and spay manure at government buildings in France.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Looks like there's a lesson here.

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[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 120 points 1 day ago (4 children)

WSJ reported "tens of thousands" attending trumps parade which was the most honest thing I've seen from major papers. then next sentence was "hundreds of thousands" attending the no kings protests. While that is technically true, it misrepresenta the 5 million who protested across the country and felt like a concession to not make trump's birthday parade look as bad.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I also saw the AP say there were "dozens" of No Kings protests. According to the No Kings site, they had protests in 1,500 cities.

Could you imagine if you asked you spouse to pick up a dozen eggs and they came back with 1,500 instead?

[–] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"they had bread."

(I know I'm butchering the joke, please bear with me)

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

trump's birthday parade

Me looking on from the provinces: did sum real "our dear leader" shit.

I know we won't, but I really hope we can diversify our security partners somewhat (Australia).

[–] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

You might want to have another chat with France.

[–] t_berium@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

The WSJ is part of the problem.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It has to continue and be sustained. It's less likely getting everyone to participate in a general strike, but if 10% of the people in the US walked out of their job to protest in the street...? I guarantee there would be immediate change.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago

It has been continuing. It has been sustained. There has been constant protesting since Trump got back in office, it's just not being covered by mainstream news outlets. These latest No Kings protests have been the biggest protests so far, but they haven't been the only protests, not by a long shot.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 81 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The NY Times was a leading cheer leader of the Third Reich, and they are a leading cheer leader of the fourth.

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[–] lath@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Peaceful protests work because they get you out and you meet like-minded people and act together as a community.

It you go out there hoping for instant change, then you're missing the point. You need to talk to people, exchange contacts, schedule more get-togethers, look to talk with your local government as a group, amass enough votes to get someone among you as a representative or their staff.

Do this in enough cities that the protests took place and then it's done.

Yes, exactly. Protests are an outreach and organizing tool, not something that by itself causes change.

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Almost like peaceful protests can be ignored by capital owners or politicians.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

they were suspicious not mentioned on most MSMs at all, instead they were focused on the coincidence occuration of israels attack on iran at the same time, and the assasinations of the Dems to distract from.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's really not. I just checked. At least not in the online version.

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