The comments are too fucking confusing. Who shot who?
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2025
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I think it was like this: A was protesting, B takes out a rifle and aims at protesters. Police (or whatever the 'peacekeeping team' consists of) start shooting at B but they missed aim training on thursday so they kill A instead.
Not correct. Person C is the volunteer who is part of 50501 or whatever local organizers put this part of the protest together. B takes out a rifle and runs towards A. Person C shoots person B because Holy Shit What Is B Doing, and hits B but accidentally hits A as well.
Oh look. A conservative traitor instigated the violence.
I am many shades of unsurprised.
Domestic terrorists folks. Every last one. Because they've all chosen to support it despite knowing. Time to start treating them like the terrorists they are.
It's being reported that Arturo is an activist who regularly open-carries in support at protests. Meanwhile you're making confidently incorrect claims that he is a conservative traitor and terrorist. Stay classy.
What I'm reading is that the guy with a rifle, Gamboa, has attended protests armed before. It looks like the peacekeeper thought he was a shooter, but there's no evidence so far Gamboa did anything illegal.
Yeah in another thread there's an interview of the rifleman from his time in a punk band talking about the system. This is likely going to be a shit show when the partisan pundits pick it up
Yea what I read was that he was "pointing a rifle at protesters".
Don't aim a gun at a person if you are not ready to fight and die.
I would argue this is not only self defence, but public defence.
Edit: looks like its not completely clear if he was brandishing the rifle or just open carying, obviously my argument doesn't technically hold water if he was just open carrying.
I would also argue that open carying a weapon well know for use in mass shootings right next to a large crowd is probably a dumb idea even if it's legal to do.
It looks like the peacekeeper thought he was a shooter
As he should.
Brandish a firearm in public, you are attempting to intimidate others, so you'll get treated like the terrorist you are.
Brandish a firearm in public
Be real careful applying the term "brandish".
Utah is a constitutional carry state, meaning anyone 21+ who can legally own a firearm can carry it concealed or openly without a permit.
In my state, Minnesota, you have to take a class and qualify to carry a firearm and during the state approved training your told to follow these steps:
- No force - avoidance, retreat or de-escalating
- No force - Telephone for help, Verbal warning
- Unarmed self defense
- Less than lethal - exposing firearm
- Deadly force - pointing the firearm at another person, shooting at someone, shooting and killing someone
Thank you. I didn't wanna have to type anything even as close to good as this.
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That is what I'm thinking. At first I went along with the speculation that Gamboa was intending to shoot into the crowd. But after reviewing the video, it looks more like he was just walking and open carrying with the rifle pointed down. It might not have been the best move in hindsight, but he had the legal right to do so.
Also after listening to his Slugmag interview I'm just not seeing the motivation for a mass shooting. Unless maybe he intended to shoot cops or something. He just doesn't seem to fit the profile & ideology of a mass shooter.
Edit: the interview if anyone is curious https://www.slugmag.com/soundwaves/episode-364-rade/
Which video are you talking about? Please provide a link.
EDIT: I think this is it. The short snippet shows the barrel pointed down. Having a masked gunman in a crowd of people is terrifying af!
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Maybe guns are bad, and maybe if you bring a rifle to a high tense situation and hold it in any manner that may seem threatening, you deserve to get shot. Super sad that an innocent died. Had the "good guy" with a gun hit the target only, then at least there would only be one less moron carrying an AR-15 today, not a sad casualty.
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