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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And again we see old incompetent white men starting another war.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 9 points 21 hours ago

Chicken Hawks who wouldn't go when they were called, but will happily send everyone else's children to die for their oil.

As soon as HitlerPig starts his war, he'll call for a draft. There is no way my son will fight in a MAGA War.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A society goes to shit when old men start wars whose conflict they know they shall never fight in

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 91 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I didn't call it, but there's nothing quite like a war to distract the population from rampant decline at home.

This one is weird though, Iran is allied with Russia. Israel is allied with the US. Historically, this made sense.

But Trump and Putin playing war together would benefit both of them. It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine because "Iran provided us much help and they need us now." And it allows Russia to maintain the war economy. It benefits Trump because he wants to play war.

Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it's just people's lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.

I don't like this. This is feeling more 1984 than 1984.

Edit: I like this even worse after I read the specifics of the KC-135R and KC-46A. Each can carry about 200,000 lbs of additional fuel. A single F-15E can hold 13,000 lbs internally. 30 KC-135Rs can refuel an entire F-15E 460 times. Israel has 7 KC-130H (60,000lbs) and 7 Boeing 707s (which is what the KC-135 was based on). This isn't just escalation, this is staging for invasion.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 194 points 1 day ago (27 children)

God I hate Republicans.

Trump is absolute garbage on every single scale and stat, but it's the republican voters who got us here. Fuck every republican voter.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago
[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Trump is after Iran's eggs, I guess. He promised the people of the US lower egg prices, he will get them from Iran.

How can people in the US be okay with this? Their quality of life has only decreased since Bush 2 started his wars of terror. A propagandized population driven to hate others and rally behind the president.

As unlikely as it may be, I hope the US loses quickly and decisively against Iran. Not in 20 years from now like in Afghanistan, but soon. I don't know what cards Iran has, what leverage they may have, but I hope they have something that enables them to inflict pain.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I’m reading this book called Heartland that actually really deep dives into why so many Americans are ok with this, the fact of the matter is huge parts of the US have been living in abject poverty since basically always and it’s part of their culture to not need much, wanting things is looked down on as weakness, it’s a cultural part of long term poverty for huge swaths of the US, that living a hard life is the only way to live, there’s obviously many layers to this but it’s not a thing you can just think your way out of (because not getting educated is also part of this culture) since culture and identity are so deeply intertwined and you see that culture being actively promoted and spread via “trad culture” which is very much popular, especially with young men, trad is just code for poor

[–] Barberserk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iran is defending, that's why the americans cannnot win this war. They don't have enough bombs to kill every iranian from the sky.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Can't win a ground war. And they know it. Hence the 30 air tankers. Gonna be another shock and awe air campaign. Except half of the middle east or more will be taking part.

Guess its time for the US to lose another war. We haven't won one since the Soviets won WWII for us.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The silver lining is that this will accelerate the decline of the US Empire which in turn will weaken Israel. Although this will be too late for the millions who have been or are still to be killed because of these psychopathic regimes.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago

The silver lining is that this will accelerate the decline of the US Empire

But not without a tremendous loss of life.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I’d just like to take this opportunity to say “fuck you” to all the service people flying these planes, planning the logistics, and otherwise operating at the behest of our sadistic federal government. Sure, the civilian leadership is ultimately at fault here, but y’all are humans with agency. I’m no longer carving out culpability from these goddamn people anymore. Fuck you terrorists. If we escalate yet another war, I’ll plan to spit on you when you arrive back broken and dead. Bring on the downvotes.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago

If your job is to support a government that murders children you are a criminal and a coward

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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 133 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So much for keeping the US out of war..

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can't believe he'd just... Lie to us like we're a court, Congress or himself or something.

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[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 56 points 1 day ago (21 children)

Anyone else get the feeling WW3 has already started but we just haven't realised it yet?

[–] match@pawb.social 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Imagine starting WW3 the weekend after 3% of your population came out to protest for other reasons. Your war weariness debuff will hit 100% in one turn.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

WW3 is any ruler biggest dream because it would grant them the highest amount of power they can get. WW3 won't happen as long as people refuse to go to war because rulers never fight their wars and they need pawns who do die for them. You will get a world war once enough people get brainwashed to fought one. Watch out for government and war propaganda.

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