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[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 4 points 27 minutes ago

The world needs to move to digital sovereignty. It's amazing to think that a country like Iran, that is constantly under threat of the US, has so many people using Whatsapp, and probably relying on much more US software.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Imperialist outlet Independent privacy washing surveillance messager Meta Whatsapp. They are platforming might - that is Meta Whatsapp spokesperson - instead of privacy focused organizations such as Electronic Frontier Foundation. Painting Iran as paranoid after litterally being attacked by zioni supremacist ruledom.

Now let's be clear. Morality police is bad. Women Life Freedom. They are suppressing humanity. But this work is made to embolden Israel and western might.

Side with folks instead. We need to enblossom the folks at ground so that they can become independent of might.

[–] BruceAlrighty@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 hours ago

hit the gym, get a divorce

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 25 points 18 hours ago

Everyone should delete these spyware tools from their devices.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 16 points 17 hours ago

Lol... Imagine when then Normie's useage of westoid softslop turns into a national security issue

Meta got Israeli spooks within ints corporate structure. All of the mega corps have these vermin. They are every where. US spooks are are also there. But I don't get why they permit Israelis in...

[–] NKBTN@feddit.uk 45 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

"We do not collect your precise location".

So... just like, to the nearest 10 metres then?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 3 hours ago

"We do not provide bulk information to any government"

So, only on the most important politicians and nuclear scientists?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Now when you say "asks"...

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)
[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can't believe i agree with iran.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what's unbelievable about it

[–] Jaderick@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Authoritarian Islamic fundamentalism.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

As opposed to western "Divine Secular Absolutism"? Real funny looking words you got there, when stringed together.

Authoritarianism is a dumb, useless and meaningless term, when you understand that every state assumes authority (name me one country that doesn't assume authority, therefore isn't "authoritarian").

1979 happened because you libs couldn't stop trying to meddle in Iran's affairs.

Coulda saved spared us the bush-beating by just saying "they're not white".

[–] Jaderick@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine trying to explain the concept of authority like a dipshit and then end it with an accusation of racism.

Could never be me lmao.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 hours ago

I can imagine, because it's almost always true of chronically Western libs parroting State Department buzzwords. Not really beating the allegations here.

Name one country that doesn't assume authority.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

Authoritarian as in not allowing westerners to take over the country resources.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 6 points 17 hours ago

insert burger index goodness report here

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[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (6 children)

Every state has authority over its citizens but some of them let women drive and not have to stay covered up and unable to move around or do anything eithout a man and don't support child marriage.

Hope this distinction helps!

To be clear fuck Israel they started this shit with Iran and I dont support it. But for you to say Iran isn't authoritarian is ignorant of the facts.

[–] impolite7537@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

How dare you criticize sharia in a lemmy.ml community you liberul??? The only thing that Iran is guilty of out of all the stuff that you listed is that they have mandatory clothing laws, but it's really just a cultural choice really, you're just brainwashed by the West's Divine Secular Absolutism which allows people to dress... freely😱😱😱. And 9 y.o. children getting married isn't a state policy you propagandist! It's just legal, that doesn't make it a state policy now does it?

And you're wrong!!! Women are allowed to drive in Iran. They just can't leave the country or anything without her husband's permission, and make sure that her hijab is not loose or she might get killed by state police.

I hope with the replies of Lemmy's beautiful Erdoganists, you have come to realize that Iran isn't a shithole Yet Another Middle Eastern Reactionary Shariah, it's a Far-Left Utopian Theocracy.

TLDR: Just switch to Lemmy.World's c/privacy ffs

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

out of these things you said, so far iran is guilty of only requiring women to stay covered and, to a degree, child marriage (it's not a state policy, but marriage with girls as young as 9 years old is legal). as far as i know women in iran can drive (the last country where women were not allowed to drive was US ally saudi arabia) and are free to move around, work, study and such, notwithstanding the challenges that women face there (legal discrimination and the oppression that they suffer just by living in a capitalist country).

however, the liberation of women in iran won't come imposed by other nation states, especially the western capitalist ones, and certainly won't come as a result of a war against israel. they don't give a damn about the iranian people, be they women, queer, religious or ethnic minorities. the sionist establishment just want anyone that menace their grip over middle east off their necks, and that's what the iranian bourgeoisie are doing right now.

if you ask me what i think would be better, the working classes of both countries would team up to seize their military apparatuses and turn them against their elites. if that's not possible, anything that hurts western imperialism gives the world a small victory, regardless of whoever achieves them. we can take care of whoever punches the west later.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Iranian women have to get permission from their husbands to work and if a husband deems the employment of a woman to insult the honor of the family, he can revoke said permission at any time. If a woman is killed, the nearest living male relative can decide whether or not to forgive the murderer. This decision cannot be made by female relatives. A women's testimony can always be overruled if a man testifies the opposite. If the family of a murder victim wants to receive money instead of seeing the murdered hanged, the murderer has to pay only half the blood money if the victim was female. Leaving Iran without the husbands permission is prohibited.

Women are routinely banned from certain events like football games or other public spectacles. Women are more often rejected as candidates in "elections".

Rape has to be proven by at least three witnesses; spousal compensation ends, as soon as women leave their marital home.

Women are second class citizens in Iran. Not just through societal patterns, but by law.

I totally agree with you on your stance towards western involvement, but the amount of people outright denying that the IR is terrible for its people just disgusts me.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The Enlightened Centrist has entered the chat!

Of course you focus on women because that's the desirable group of objects of which you most desire, so you project your desires on to "helpless", "hapless" women who need your "civilized" and "noble" ass "saving" from these "dirty barbaric orcs".

Every state has authority over its citizens but some of them let women drive

Women can drive in Iran.

not have to stay covered up

As opposed to Europeans depriving women of their dignities and forcing them to stay as uncovered as possible?

Dear white people of France: being forced to undress wasn't exactly the liberation I was longing for

Palestinian women detail Israeli sexual assaults in Kamal Adwan raid

unable to move around or do anything eithout a man

Iranian women can move around freely, it was definitely a much bigger case then for sure, but nowadays it's literally a non-issue..

don’t support child marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Europe

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Age of consent in Germany is the age at which 14 year old can fiddle each other and people up to 18. They can not marry adults.

Iran allows marriage after the occurrence of the first period.

You see the difference?

Oh, and the harshest European law against hijabs is France's asinine ban of full face coverage, which punishes the wearing of the niqab or tshador with a maximum fine of 150€. If one forces someone to wear these veils, they can be punished with a fine of up to 30.000€ and a year in prison. This law is horseshit, I wanna make that clear.

The Iranian law on Veils punishes the first offense with a suspended fine of 6.7 million toman, then on the second offense ramps up 13 million, then between 20 and 80 million and the fourth between 80 and 165. After the fifth, it's two to five years in prison. For not wearing a veil.

It gets even funnier: if you advocate for people to not wear a veil, and you did so in corporation with some non-iranian entity or person, you will immediately be sentenced to a fine of between 300 million and 550 million toman and 5 to 10 years in prison. You can even be sentenced to death if the court determines that your actions are spreading "corruption and evil on earth".

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

amazing, we have child sex defenders in chat now. I was hoping it would go without saying that child sex, regardless if it's between two children, is wrong. But when it's enshrined in your "civilized" laws, suddenly it makes it ok.

I'm not even going to entertain this further by conceding that Iran's marriage and consent laws are horrible, because they are and it goes without saying, and it's something that needs to be worked on stat. Take your disgusting, vile Westernophile shit out of here.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 minute ago* (last edited 43 seconds ago)

A. Completely ignoring the veil laws, classic.

B. Adults raping children is disgusting. Adolescents having sex with each other is a completely different thing. You wanna convict the 16 years old for having sex with their 15 year old partner? Is that "child sex" to you? I lost my virginity before I turned 18, should I go to jail? You should brush up on your definition of children.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

One nitpick on your post, you posted the age of concent not the age of allowable marrage, in in some places those are diffrent numbers

This from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_age_in_the_United_States shows the earliest allowable marrage age in each state, and I promise you California's age of concent is greater than 0

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I deliberately did that to basically demonstrate Western chauvinism in its rawest form. It's greater magnitudes more fucked up than anything chauvinists blab about. Also what the fuck is California lol.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

I only brought it up because I know in the US marrage laws are often the same or lower than out age of consent laws (from wikipedia) so I think the marrage laws are more damning, atleast in the US

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

is ignorant of the facts.

didn't google if Iran allows women to drive

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I have never seen evidence that women are not allowed to drive, and I have had Iranians tell me the contrary. IRNA Irans state news if it was not down from likely DDOS I would show you posted an immage of one of the dead from Israels attack, was a women without a head covering, agian there is no evidence I can find that it is a law, just a large cultural preference. Same think with a women in Iran being dependent on a man, I have seen no evidence for this outside of the Western press.

I just want to ask a clarification, are you saying anti-child marriage is a bad thing???

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

But for you to say Iran isn’t authoritarian is ignorant of the facts.

We are not ignorant of the facts, but you are ignorant of your carrying water for Western imperialism. Which is understandable thanks to a lifetime of propaganda, but it’s never too late to stop.

[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml -1 points 12 hours ago

Awww, you've been reading newspapers again.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 276 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I am asking the world to delete Meta apps. Please.

[–] LukaFLBernaudeau@europe.pub 5 points 17 hours ago

Currently trying to delete WhatsApp and people I know are giving me a hard time...

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 day ago (28 children)

I have already done as you ask!

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“We do not provide bulk information to any government.”

Millions of dollars on the other hand…

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