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He told the New York Times that he thinks the U.S. will “very likely” find itself in a three-front war with China, Russia, and Iran. As a result, he said, the Pentagon should continue developing autonomous weapons at full speed, pointing to big mismatches in how far the U.S. would be willing to go while fighting a war compared with other countries.

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[–] scott@lemmy.org 73 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

He's also got plenty of financial incentive to say shit like that. War on all 3 of those fronts would be so untenable with the state of things and he knows that which is why he's advocating for more drones but really? How realistic is that? China's drones are at least as advanced as ours

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd rather fight a one front war against palantir

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[–] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

What makes him think we're going to fight Russia? Mango Mussolini loves Russia.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah Hitler “loved” Russia for a minute too

[–] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 6 points 2 weeks ago

In some sense our large contributions to Ukraine earlier in the war could be seen as us fighting Russia via proxy. If I recall correctly our involvement with conflicts in Syria were also seen similarly, as us fighting a Russian proxy state. My understanding is that war between nuclear powers often looks like this because all out war could escalate to nuclear weapons too quickly. All this to say, I think we were already at war with Russia before Trump regained office.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Not to mention China seems to choose the most economical decision it seems. They care about Taiwan strictly because of money. There is no economic growth for them from fighting the U.S.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I disagree about Taiwan. That's a thing that goes back to the founding of modern China, it is, and has been a cornerstone of their policy. But otherwise ya, they seem to make rational economic choices.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Also they're in no shape to fight

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

10 months ago*

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because Trump turns on everyone eventually.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

art of the TACO

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[–] tortina_original@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Lunatics are truly running the asylum.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, George Dubbya kinda let this one slip back in the 2000s.

[–] rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes he did, the New World Order plans.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Because 3 way wars are easy to win.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Especially when one of the opponents has several times our population and all opponents are oceans away, besides two of the three being nuclear armed and the third being close. Even with the size of our military, I don't think that's a war we would stand a reasonable chance in.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Imo, we are fucked. Ukraine drones show that our aircraft carriers, planes, and tanks are worthless when a 1000 dollar drone can carry munitions to cripple them.
It's a new world and we aren't prepared for it.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wasn't even thinking about that kind of thing, since drones are something I'm sure we could utilize as well. It's mostly the sheer production capacity and population that China in particular has. I expect an actual large scale war against them, that both didn't turn nuclear (since that renders the whole concept of a victor a bit moot) and wasn't some very quick defensive action like an attempt to defend Taiwan might be (which might end fast enough for production capacity to not matter as much as existing inventory), would end up looking something like Japan's war against the US during ww2: we might be able to cause a great deal of damage to their military assets at first, but if they can replace their losses much faster than we can, then all they have to to is drag things out enough for the numbers to swing decisively in their favor.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Offshoring all our factories isn't going to work out well. If only trump wasn't an idiot, he could have made progress on that over next 10 yrs

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The United States military strength has, until very recently, been focused on the ability to successfully prosecute war on two major fronts and one minor front.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Especially ones with no obvious win conditions

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The US could probably take on Russia and Iran without much effort, but isn't China's military actually comparable to the US'?

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

China considers itself a regional power, and doesn't delude itself into calling itself a world power like Russia does. So it's unlikely they'd direct any strikes at CONUS if a war broke out. They would instead try to force all US/allied influences out of their sphere of influence and just play the defensive game until some kind of peace could be negotiated.

They have aspirations to become a global power in the next century and possibly could do it, the real question is do they intend to share the stage with the US or find ways to erode US power down to regional power and rise up to take their place?

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think that if a war was to break out, it would be like US vs Japan in WW2. Except we would be Japan and China would be the US.

The Japanese had superior weapons and ships, but were unable to replace losses in a timely fashion, leading to being dominant in the beginning of the war, but once the US manufacturing base started producing weapons and ships, the Japanese were quickly overwhelmed and unable to keep up.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

So the guy who runs the AI intelligence corporation thinks the West is morally superior to the degree that more amoral, barbarous countries like China and Russia and Iran have some advantage over us.

Like it's just sensitive and soft westerners fighting against robotic Asians and Russians. Iranians are so evil compared to us: they're willing to use nukes!

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Psychopaths

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

He says shit like this to juice his stock and defense contracts.

[–] Hlodwig@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Lol nah, China is winning by a long margin in this neo-capitalistic world, no way they are going to war against US. They have all the time in the world to regain Taïwan.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And at home, America will eventually fight against America.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago

No, America will fight against traitors.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If we can't clean up Iran quickly there's gonna be a no front war because China will roll us

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Something something BRICS

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

You know this fucking guy loathes himself

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago

Ridiculous. There is no possible way that HitlerPig will go to war against Russia. What is far more likely, is that he abandons NATO, and signs a pact with Russia, China, and North Korea.

As a show of good faith, we will surrender Taiwan to China, and Alaska to Russia (establishing a Russian military presence in our hemisphere, on our landmass), and in exchange, we can have Canada and Mexico.

HitlerPig would consider that a good deal.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thank God I have severe sleep apnea.

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