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In Bush’s naïveté about the magic of elections, he ignored a crucial point about democracy.

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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree with the narrative. It suggests democracy was the issue when hamas murdered Fatah members. At that piont its not a democracy. Russia does those bs elections every time it invades a place and that is not democracy.

[–] btaf45@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It suggests democracy was the issue when hamas murdered Fatah members.

Hamas would not have been in a position to exert that power if they did not have the majority control they got from winning the election. It's like when the Nazis came to power from elections they started murdering their opponents with nobody to stop them.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah but the solution is not to have the democracy germany had before then. I mean in both cases its really just basically a coup but in the case of palestine it happened realy fast. Granted allowing hamas to run as an armed group was likely a mistake. They should have had to do the irish thing were there is the seperate political wing and they keep enough distance to not sully the legitimate political group.

[–] btaf45@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Granted allowing hamas to run as an armed group was likely a mistake.

Agreed. Hamas should not have been allowed to run in the election.

I mean in both cases its really just basically a coup but in the case of palestine it happened realy fast.

Practically every 3rd world country went thru this in decolonialization. It was called "one man, one vote, one time".