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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Next we'll see all US cops wearing masks in their regular day to day activities, like in the Watchmen series.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (31 children)

I agree with that the abusive cops and ice is insane in the US, and it should be stopped. I also believe that the US is a corrupt nation in nearly every place of the government and surrounding instances.

But a question surround this, what if the US wasn't corrupt and the judges would actually follow the law (juries wouldn't be able to exist for most cases) and hypothetical if the US had privacy laws for everything besides businesses wouldn't this be the same punishable offence that would protect citizens?

In GDPR countries (among others) nobody is allowed to do something like this with face recognition because the law works for everybody. (Some people are trying to destroy this in some countries, though).

At the same time, if the government is allowed to use facial recognition and other anti-privacy measures to identify people where there is no ground to, then why shouldn't the people be able to do that?

Edit: I am not from the US and my look on life and trias political situations is different than what the fuck is happening in the US

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

A good time to ask this question after it's used for good and we have politicians in office who aren't against the will of the people, not before

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

In GDPR countries (among others) nobody is allowed to do something like this with face recognition because the law works for everybody.

Lmao, in france facial recognition is being rolled out all over and we got laws explicitly prohibiting the filming of cops (ofcourse, the only reasonable action to take against the documented brutality of the pigs /s)

[–] tschesky@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not from the U.S. either, so a lot of that is coming from a place of ignorance, so bear with me please. But the way I understand it, is that the website just lets you look up name and badge number - things that police officers (at least in most jurisdictions) are obliged to provide upon request, but often fail to do so in recent U.S. developments. So one could argue that this is more about access to information that should be available anyway, rather than doxxing people for the fun of it, right?

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

You don't want the name of the piece of shit that fuck us a traffic stop and shoots your neurodivergent teenager daughter in the face to stay anonymous; not you, or your community, nor anyone wants that.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 0 points 17 hours ago

Yeah I guess, I didn't know that the name was public information. It doesn't really make sense to me why that is needed. Imo the badge number should be enough to file a formal complaint somewhere and get somebody to act according to that complaint.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well, the US Supreme court did explicitely say cops have no expectation of anonymity while doing their job. This is completely legal. Its premised on the idea that cops arent there to be abusive but to uphold the law, which is not always actually true. The root of the problem is cops behavior themselves rather than the recording or identifying of them. Up until very recently cops at least had their names visible and were required to show ID upon request.

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If the police weren't unaccountable invaders, and just, liked, issued annoying tickets or whatever instead of murdering children and doing to crowds of peaceful civilians things that would be war crimes if done to uniformed enemy soldiers literally any tike they assemble, or even if the obes who actually did that stuff were punished literally at all when they did, i don't think anyone would have even thought to do this.

They are abd they do and they don't, though.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)

In GDPR countries (among others) nobody is allowed to do something like this with face recognition because the law works for everybody.

IDK the specifics of GDPR (and GDPR is relatively new, so it will continue to evolve for some time...)

In my view: the police are public servants, salaries and pensions paid by taxes. They have voluntarily chosen to serve as public servants. Whole hosts of studies show that police who are actively involved with the communities they police, seeing, being seen, being known by the neighborhoods they work in, those police are more effective at preventing crime, defusing domestic disputes, etc. than faceless thugs with batons and guns who only show up when they are going to use their arrest powers to shut down whatever is going on.

If I were to write "my version" of the GDPR that I think the US should enact, there would be clear exceptions for public servants, including police and politicians. Now, you can get into the whole issue of "undercover cops" which is clearly analogous to "secret police" which may be a necessary evil for some circumstances, but that's not what is going on with OP's website. OP is providing a tool to compare photos to a public database of photographs of public servants - not undercover cops. By the way: performance is spec'ed at 1 to 3 seconds per photo comparison, so 9000 photos might take 9000-27000 seconds to compare, that's 2.5 to 7.5 hours to run one photo search.

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[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The answer is that I don't think it matters because the US or any other society will never reach some utopic standard of privacy. So long as we live in a world where facial recognition is possible - it is better to regulate it strongly than attempt to prohibit it.

In a modern globalized world the old privacy is dead, no matter how you look at it. Going forward something new will need to be built out of the ashes, be it a new privacy or something better/worse.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 395 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I get the impression that the cops are about to hate facial recognition all of the sudden, for no particular reason

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 170 points 2 days ago (25 children)

There's a reason ICE conceal their faces.

They know what they're doing is wrong and don't want to be held accountable if their fascist rule collapses.

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 69 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Cameras. They fucking hate body cameras. When it clears them of wrongdoing, they have the video ready. When they 'accidentally' shoot a guy nine times in the back of the head, video seems to be missing.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

easily solvable problem: losing the footage is indication of guilt. you shoot someone, you better have it ready. it malfunctioned, better have a partner who has theirs ready. if no one has footage to clear you, it's used as evidence of guilt.

of course pussy ass lawmakers will never do that.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

Should be the ice agents too

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 123 points 2 days ago
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 137 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If only CSI enhancing worked in real life, we could out the asshole on the far left.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

far left

From his PoV, he's actually standing on the far-right. Fitting lol

[–] teft@lemmy.world 150 points 2 days ago
[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 152 points 2 days ago
[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 115 points 2 days ago

This is ILLEGAL when Working Class people Do It!

-Chuck Schumer at Some Point probably!

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lmao let's see how long it takes them to shut this down

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (10 children)

nice.

Is there one for ice too?

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 93 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Is it me or is LA the only part of America doing anything resembling resistance?

[–] ssroxnak@lemmy.world 104 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it's mainly LA that is seeing a large invasion of federal forces

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[–] Gudl@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago

This is nice. Use their own weapons against these fuckers.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (19 children)

What are they so afraid of? They're public servants, so they should be publicly identifiable. If they don't like it, get off the government payroll

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 79 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Should be easy to beat this and not worry about being identified and sued.

I know it will be hard guys, but how about:

"Don't be a power tripping asshole"

You see people holding signs?

Don't be a power tripping asshole and shoot tear gas, pepper shot, beat people, and shoot non-lethal rounds at them.

You see people marching?

Don't be a power tripping asshole and shoot tear gas, pepper shot, beat people, and shoot non-lethal rounds at them.

You see reporters documenting it all?

Don't be a power tripping asshole and shoot tear gas, pepper shot, beat people, and shoot non-lethal rounds at them.

"Don't be a power tripping asshole."

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[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 days ago

Putting it out there for someone to do this for cops in the UK. I can't run infrastructure but the cops terrorise out local community and constantly refuse to identify themselves/turn off their badge cam.

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