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Mike Johnson elected House speaker with broad GOP support (apnews.com)

submitted 1 year ago by FiftyShadesOfLatte@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 203 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Since I've never heard of him, here are some of Mike Johnson's political stances. In favor of:

A nationwide abortion ban.

A nationwide ban on gay marriage.

Heavy restrictions on medical marijuana prescriptions and a ban on recreational marijuana.

Ending military aid to Ukraine.

Gay conversion therapy.

Federal law against gender affirming care for those under 18.

Eliminating funding for immigration and refugee assistance.

Trump's Muslim ban.

A federal version of Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bill.

Prayer in public schools.

Laws making divorce more difficult.

Johnson does not believe in climate change or that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election. He is a young earth creationist believing the Earth was created between 6-10k years ago. He regularly takes his family hunting or to the gun range. He basically checks every box of a christofascist.

The only good thing I can see about him is that Johnson adopted a black 14 year old boy and raised him. Of course he used this adoption as justification for being against reparations and the adopted son can it be found in any public family photos with Johnson. Any speculation that the adopted boy doesn't exist or was Johnson's sexual plaything is completely unfounded.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 88 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Given every election that’s happened since 2016, this is exactly what every single Democratic candidate needs to hang around the neck of every single Republican. No more blue state moderate republicans. Link them all to 100% supporting a national abortion ban, outlawing marriage equality, and forced Christian prayers in public schools. Anti-civil rights, pro-child endangerment. Every single market should get this message, and it should be clear and consistent across the country.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It isn't enough to just argue that people shouldn't vote for Republicans. Being the least worst option won't work. We need to talk about why they should vote for Democrats. We need to convince people that their own personal lives will be tangibly better under Democrats. We need to make people more able to afford housing and food. Union support. Raising the minimum wage. Legislation restricting corporate renters. Legal actions on companies inflating their profits and blaming the pandemic. We need to make people believe that we are on their side against the people who are fucking them.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trust me when I say that I always vote for the best option on the ballot. If Bernie or Liz Warren is there, they’re getting my vote as well as my donations.

But as a member of Team Rainbow, I also have an obligation to myself and my community to do my best to make sure we do not become illegal and persecuted. I will choose fucking anyone over someone who will promise to do actual harm. I feel the same about abortion rights and health care. Those are the bills we need to be ready to die on - and by die on I mean voting for whoever is going to not make it illegal to be gay or trans. I’m old enough (barely) to remember Anita Bryant, who worked to make it illegal for gay men to teach in California because of “grooming.” They called it “recruiting” back then.

I’ll take 40 years of Bidens and Clintons before I take four of the Christian and racist radicals that currently make up the entirety of the gop. When we elect an entire slate of democrats - when they can run the table - we can make things happen like in Michigan. We need enough of a margin of error that a Sinema or Manchin (or Lieberman) can’t hold us hostage.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There is no real chance of people like you or I voting GOP in any case. It's the people who don't have strong opinions either way about deal-breaker issues like LGBT rights or abortion. They are more likely to vote for who puts more money in their pocket or who they think protects them from what they fear.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ehh... you can make a fence sitter into a Democrat, sure, but I really don't think you can convince anyone still willing to call themselves a Republican in 2023 to do more than stay home on election day.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging by every election that has been held since Roe v. Wade was overturned, it looks like this is actually happening.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, every Republican from a Biden-voting district just signed their own death warrant.

I'll try to hold back my tears.

[–] pingveno@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like moderate Republicans weren't objecting to an extremist (ala Jim Jordan). They were objecting to an extremist who had too much of a public profile. They just needed someone obscure enough that they wouldn't catch too much flak for choosing them.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats the trick, there never were moderate republicans.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I can think of two. Sinema and Manchin.

[–] jballs@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

We already knew he was a Republican.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A nationwide abortion ban.

A nationwide ban on gay marriage.

Lol. Lmao even.

I would like to thank Republicans for the constant advertisement they provide for Democrats. 2022 will look like a blowout for Republicans compared to 2024 if they push legislation for this.

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[–] Spyd3r@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Sure would be nice to have a functional, sane, and reality based conservative party in the US, not this circus sideshow they call the Republican party.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Democratic Party is the Conservative Party. Republicans are far right of that.

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, we have a conservative party and a fascist party.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a fascist party vs. a big tent "everyone else" party. That's how the #GOP works in lock(goose)step & the Democrats constantly have to deal with pandering, grasping assholes like Manchin & Sinema.

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

The Democrats aren't a "big tent" party they're a "vote for us or you get the fascists" party.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago

I disagree, there’s a pretty big swath between the polar opposites of the party for democrats in the US. They are both capitalists, yes; but not conservative.

Perhaps more accurate would be a pro democracy party and a pro authoritarianism party.

[–] gamingdexter@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know, I was thinking the same thing. Like sure, I'm not for Republicans, but if they could at least get someone who actually cares about what it means at the core to be a Republican and work for the people and want small Gov, then sure. But here we are yet again, they continue to be an embarrassment. That party is a joke and has been for some time now

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Your problem is assuming this

someone who actually cares about what it means at the core to be a Republican

and this

work for the people and want small Gov

are synonymous.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Republicans exemplify conservatism. They want to go back to subjugating women and minorities, killing gays, and maintaining power with a ruling class. You know, tradition.

[–] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

What's funny is that the Democrats would be a very right-wing party in almost any other established democracy. Republicans would basically be the fascist party everywhere else (well America too, I guess).

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

He’s a fucking worthless traitor.

[–] FiftyShadesOfLatte@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only supporting evidence in this article, as to why the GOP, elected Johnson:

“I think he’s gonna be a fantastic speaker,” Trump said Wednesday at the New York courthouse where the former president, who is now the Republican front-runner for president in 2024, is on trial over a lawsuit alleging business fraud.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

From here:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/25/who-is-mike-johnson-republican-2020-election

"Johnson served on Donald Trump’s legal defense team during his first impeachment."

and:

"He played a key role in assisting Trump’s efforts to overturn the election, the New York Times reported last year. When Texas filed a lawsuit at the US supreme court asking the justices to set aside valid electoral votes from Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona, he organized a friend-of-the-court brief in support and got 125 of his House Republican colleagues to sign on."

[–] IamRoot@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Election denier.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was looking forward to a couple more days of getting popcorn and watching this shit show. Oh well.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBF, I'm looking forward to unpinning the MegaPost. :)

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That's fair, lol.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He got all 220 Republicans to vote for him.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I read another article that says this guy got the job because he has the fewest enemies willing to torpedo his candidacy in the Caucus.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smart people, a lot of people, frankly are saying this guy got the job because he sucked Trump's dick.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So did Gymbo, and we see how that went.

[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Gymbo actually made me lol in a pub. Loved it

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To paraphrase how someone some GOP Representative apparently described it:

"We have to find someone smart enough to get the votes and stupid enough to want the job".

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bought a fresh head of lettuce for the occasion.

The history of the romaine empire is so interesting.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I love it so much I need to share the context for those who don't know.

Last year, there was a mix up in UK conservative leadership, and on 6 September 2022 Liz Truss became Prime Minister.

On 14 October 2022, The Star (a British tabloid) began live-streaming a head of iceberg lettuce in response to an article from The Economist which stated Truss' tenure as Prime Minister had "the shelf life of a lettuce."

Despite many MANY interviews boldly stating "I am not a quitter", Truss resigned on 20 October 2022. Obviously the lettuce had not yet even begun to wilt.

Since then, she has shared in interviews that it was humiliating to be compared to a lettuce.

She has also been back in the news recently. After a long hiatus, she came back to UK government to push a budget, which passed, and promptly tanked the UK economy even further than it has already been tanked in near-to-moderate history by Brexit.

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[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

His biography touts his "20 years successfully litigating high profile constitutional law cases in district and appellate courts nationwide and is widely recognized as a leading defender of the right to life, religious liberty, free speech, the Second Amendment and free market principles.

Oh boy. This guy is already looking like a real loser.

HR5636 Protect Children’s Innocence Act A BILL To amend chapter 110 of title 18, United States Code, to prohibit gender affirming care on minors.

HJRes45 JOINT RESOLUTION Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Department of Education relating to ‘‘Waivers and Modifications of Federal Student Loans’’. Vetoed

HR7 No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion and Abortion Insurance Full Disclosure Act of 2023 A BILL To prohibit taxpayer funded abortions.

HR82 Social Security Fairness Act of 2023 A BILL To amend title II of the Social Security Act to repeal the Government pension offset and windfall elimination provisions.

HR356 Unleashing American Energy Act A BILL To require the Secretary of the Interior to conduct a minimum number of oil and gas lease sales in certain areas, to prevent delays in oil and gas leasing, and for other purposes.

HR1010 Prohibiting IRS Financial Surveillance Act A BILL To prohibit the implementation of new requirements to report bank account deposits and withdrawals.

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Insurrectionist traitors vote in favor of fellow insurrectionist traitor, because they all support insurrection, treason."

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Horrifying

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who the fuck is this ass clown?

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Just another terrorist traitor

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Insurrectionist

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Yay! Fascism!

[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Wow I didn't expect to see this so soon, I thought they'd do at least another dozen more votes or something.

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