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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ancient city-sized dragon that is eons older that any surviving historical text or man-made structures in the world, speaking to the dwarf that stands bravely before her: "Well ain't chu just the most precious lil' thang I ever did lay eyes on! Wut's yer name, sugah?"

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yer here ta kill me? Oh, honey, bless yer heart!

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My papy were what you would call an elder dragon, so unless you got the fire power to take down Mrs. Tiamat you don't stand a chance against me, sugah.

So why don't you just cool your heels, I'll go make us some tea, and you can tell me about what's going on in the world these days.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 112 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

No one decided that, if you’re looking at Tolkien based fantasy then of course it’s British because it’s British fantasy

All of the Asian fantasy I’ve seen has been populated by people of their respective country.

Everyone knows the Grim Reaper is Jamaican

This post is stupid, just write your desired fantasy

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[–] MBZzZzZzZz@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't want none of them there dragons yonder.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Got daym goblins stole mah moonshine.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tell you what them there walking skeletons ain't right.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah man talkin bout dang ol 𝔖𝔴𝔬𝔯𝔡 𝔬𝔣 𝔱𝔥𝔢 𝔘𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔡 and back o' the dang ol cave man. Talkin about fighting off dang ol skeletons with my bb gun man and dang ol sunuvaguns just come right back man. Just ain't right.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The correct voice order tonread this thread: Dale, Bill, Hank, Boomhauer.

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[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What better way to break immersion than have your quest giver start screaming GO ON GIT

[–] TeraFloppy@lemmings.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why so much room for activities on this image?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

cropping hard

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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

American accents sound too 'modern' because American English wasn't a thing until the Medieval period had long passed, and most fantasy is medieval or medieval-adjacent.

I'm all for broadening the use, though. I love that the Witcher games gave Geralt and the other Witchers of the School of the Wolf American accents. And Dragon Age (back when it was good) giving the dwarves American accents.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

New England accent is actually closest to English of the Middle Ages.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

I heard it was Southern English which was closest to Elizabethan English.

In any case, reality doesn't matter. Perceptions matter. Britain is an old country, and America is a new country - so in 'translating' an accent to a past period, we tend to see the accent of the 'old country' as more appropriate.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

American English wasn’t a thing until the Medieval period had long passed

Nor was modern British English. One of the defining features of modern British English is the lack of rhoticity (dropping the "r" sound), but that's very modern, only happening in the 19th century. They have managed to recreate how English sounded in Shakespeare's time by looking at words that were supposed to rhyme, and their meter. To me, it sounds like "pirate English".

https://youtu.be/uQc5ZpAoU4c?t=299

Whether modern American English is closer to Shakespeare's English is a matter for debate. I'd say it's closer than RP, but not as close as some rural British accents.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Because its fantasy no ones fantasising about American accents.

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[–] Jikal@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Orc: "Y'all lil fellers in the wrong gotdam place I reckon. You boys jus' git on up in them rocks and take them panties right off."

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[–] WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com 27 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Pretty sure because the “original” fantasy was written as a false history for England (LoTR was this). So it makes sense that the people would bear an English accent

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fantasy is based upon the middle ages.

During the middle ages the US did not exist.

[–] lanolinoil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iroquois Confederacy would like a word....

[–] HardNut@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The middle ages ended in 1453 with the fall of Constantinople, which coincided with the birth of the Renaissance in Italy having already taken place.

The Iroquois Confederacy was founded (most likely) in the 1500s, with the earliest record of the first capital being in 1609.

The United States itself was founded in the 1700s.

Their comment was correct, the Iroquois Confederacy was founded during the age of the Renaissance and our modern conception of America came much later

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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Also, why are all dwarfs Scottish?

[–] uis@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Because both are proud and mountanious nations?

[–] Damdy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Apparently, Tolkien's dwarven language just naturally works well with a Scottish accent. Earlier radio, tv, readings leant into this and other writings including fantasy dwarves followed suit.

[–] KeisukeTakatou@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It just sounds right.

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[–] Boldizzle@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Because New Zealand is a fantasy hence why it doesn't exist on many world maps.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's see.

Dwarves: Billy-Bob Thornton's accent from Sling Blade.

Elves: Transatlantic accent. Used by stars in the 1930s/1940s.

Hobbits: Cajun. Makes sense, they love food, live a rural life, etc.

Orcs: NYC accent

Goblins: Chicago Accent

Or, if you wanted to go international.

Dwarves: Gotta go with the classic. Glasgow.

Elves: South African. I think it can sound smart but foreign-influenced, as elves should.

Hobbits: Aussie

Orcs: NYC accent again

Goblins: Newfoundland accent

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

We do, they just tend to be the Orcs or Goblins lol

[–] phx@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most have Eurocentric accents because those are the areas the various legends and stories originated.

Various depictions of leprechauns make them pretty much Irish rednecks. I love Mad Sweeney's depiction in American Gods.

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[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would like to take this moment recommend Not Another D&D Podcast solely because of the Crick Elves

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[–] nyoooom@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Because for fantasy we think of middle ages, and middle ages america is full of natives, not a single English speaker in sight

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Geralt has an American accent in the games.

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[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tolkien, the father of modern fantasy based Middle Earth a lot on old Britain and the affects industrialisation was having.

I'd love to see more fantasy based on Native American mythology for sure.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Dragon Age, the dwarves speak with an American accent, which was pretty unique during the time.

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[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes we collectively decided it. We all had a big vote, but you weren't invited.

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[–] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean go and watch true blood or read the books ots based off of ?

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[–] TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Modern fantasy is heavily based on ancient European fairytales and folklore

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[–] cleanandsunny@literature.cafe 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A great example of this is Not Another D&D Podcast, a comedy D&D podcast. The first campaign has a player character who sounds like she’s from Appalachia!

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[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The German translation of Baldur's Gate decided for some reason that elves spoke in an east-German accent. Imagine Legolas sounding like he was from Texas.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

YEE-HAW, I'm the FASTEST BOW IN THESE HERE WOODS

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[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago

I did a dnd campaign once where it had a Louisiana bayou theme. Rednecks? Southern belles, and swamp gnomes with Cajun French accents. Was a lot of fun!

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

"y'all want some fairy dust?"

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