Is it actually open source now?
this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2023
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nope. But it keeps getting spammed on lemmy...
Source avaliable. they want to change the license tho
According to the license, it is better than source available. You can modify and redistribute, you just can't sell it. Other than that caveat, as far as I can tell, your rights are basically the same as with other open source licenses. (Feel free to correct me if I've missed something.)
Section 4 is what gets me. Your rights are temporary and revokable meaning the the rest of the license doesn't matter in the long term
## Section 4: Termination, suspension and variation
1. We may suspend, terminate or vary the terms of this license and any access to the code at any time, without notice, for any reason or no reason, in respect of any licensee, group of licensees or all licensees including as may be applicable any sub-licensees.
Yeah, that just leaves the door open for enshittification. "Trust me bro" vibes. This license needs a better Ulysses pact.
Rossmann stated that this license is to keep fake versions riddled with ads or similar scammy stuff from mudding the water. I'm sure he agrees that this is not optimal.
My problem with this is, what stops people from simply violating the license anyways? Is futo going to go after every license violator? Do they even have the power to do so?
I've seen people make adware versions of closed source apps as well, so even not having the code public and online doesn't stop people.
I saw the video. There has to be a way to accomplish that without leaving the possibility of retroactively changing the license in the future.
Thankfully, the plugins that I've looked at are released with an open source license.
I know I will not be putting effort into porting my subscriptions over as long as the license allows them to fuck users over if company ownership changes its mind or if it gets sold.
It seems cool, but even the documentation is locked away behind a link that requires authentication, so it's going to be annoying for anyone to try to make a plugin. I want to make a youtube plugin with sponsorblock, so I reached out to ask how to access the documentation basically when Louis's video went live and have yet to hear a response.
Also, polycentric is going to need some form of moderation because, as it stands, it's chock full of racial slurs and other awful stuff.
Same way Firefox does. Trade marks. They want to protect the reputation of their trade marks, that is enforceable, and then they can let people fork to their hearts content (waterfox, iceweasle, librewolf, the tor browser, etc).
~~I also don't believe it's even fully source availiable. There are no build instructions, and you can't clone all the submodules without signing in to their closed application gitlab instance. If anyone has sucessfully built it from source, please lmk.~~
Nevermind they did add build instructions since I last checked. Still lmk if anyone's tested them.
not really as the FUTO temporary license restricts the use of the source code
this is not open source. from their license:
Subject to the terms of this license, we grant you a non-transferable, non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to access and use the code solely for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution.
note how this explicitly leaves out modification.
You may provide the code to anyone else and publish excerpts of it for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution, provided that when you do so you make any recipient of the code aware of the terms of this license, they must agree to be bound by the terms of this license and you must attribute the code to the provider
once again, they exclude modification of the code.
no forks can be made because they aren't allowed to modify the app in anyway.
Additionally, the termination clauses say that they can just terminate your rights to use the code if they feel like it, no other reason needed. This is a direct attack against open source.