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Come on'n get your jamaharon on! There are no real rules—just don't break the weather control network.

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[–] Melkath@kbin.social 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Simple math.

Intolerance(-) of intolerance(-) is(=) tolerance(+).

Tolerance(+) of intolerance(-) is(=) intolerance(-).

Tolerance(+) of tolerance(+) is(=) tolerance(+).

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love this community so much.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And we love you, buddy <3

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That time Spock heard about Daft Punk.

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also called The Paradox of Tolerance, as explained by Karl Popper (one of my favorite philosophers).

Although, as you showed, there are several ways to illustrate that it's not really a paradox. My favorite is to consider that tolerance is a social contract entered into by every participant; those who are intolerant are breaching that contact and are therefore not protected by it.

[–] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole “tolerance paradox” can be solved by a very simple fact: Those that seek to break the social contract we all live under do not get afforded the benefits of said social contract.

By the very nature of trying to break/corrupt it you have nullified it for yourself. And until you are willing to abide by it again, you face the same punishment as those that break any of our laws. Your rights restricted, confinement, financial penalties, etc.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is Popper's own proposed solution for that paradox: Tolerance is not to be extended to the intolerant.

He suggests trying to work within the bounds of the contract first (talking, reasoning, voting etc.), but if that fails or is impossible endorses the censorship and suppression (violent, if necessary) of the intolerant. Try the high road, but be willing to acknowledge when that road is a dead end and ready to correct course in time.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That take seems too measured for some people, sadly. But it is the right way.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 69 points 1 year ago

Dax would beat the ass of anyone putting dumbass words like that in her mouth.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] dm_me_your_feet@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Jadzia would never utter such a garbage take. The Dax symbiont is gonna sue ya if you dont delete this.

[–] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 7 points 1 year ago

I read this meme from right to left the first time and was so confused lol