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I guess it is a consequence of the Reddit migration where the habit is just keeping the old community name. But having C/Politics being US only on Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.

Would have been cool to give up this assumption that everything is related to US by default when moving away from Reddit. I mean, even the canadian political news of Lemmy.ca is CanadaPolitics.

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[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 189 points 1 year ago

More than weird, it should be corrected.

[-] TerryMathews@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

How quickly we want to become Reddit I guess.

[-] MaxVerstappen@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Well, that community is just as toxic and block-worthy as the reddit sub already. Mission accomplished.

[-] TerryMathews@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I was more meaning wanting the admins to fuck around with the communities a la /u/spez.

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

You can always leave to another instance or make your own if you don't like the admins. Proper democracy in action. Wasn't like that on Reddit.

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[-] Flicsmo@rammy.site 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the actions that Reddit took that were the problem, not admins taking action in general. But as long as there are alternatives from federation I don't see an issue with admins doing something about this, whether or not I agree with it.

[-] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Are the admins deleting global content or something? If not, wouldn't correcting it just be more people from other countries posting their own political news?

[-] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

It's part of the rules:

Must be articles relevant to US political news. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed.

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world is full of US-specific things. It's quite bizarre that US is probably the only major country that doesn't have its own instance. I've already noted it. And predicted it a month ago, but that didn't go anywhere.

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago

What do you mean. the USA ain't the whole world?

[-] reverie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Every country in the world belongs to America

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[-] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

It definitely should change its name to US Politics.

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Is it US politics simply because there are far, far more Americans on there than from any other country (especially English-speaking)... or is it US politics because other threads are blocked and/or deleted?

There's a rather large distinction there.

We love you Canada, but let's be real here, there are almost 10x more Americans than there are Canadians, so naturally there are going to be more political stories posted about the country with the much larger population. If non-US posts are deleted, on the other hand, then that's messed up.

[-] Flicsmo@rammy.site 49 points 1 year ago

The latter. Rule 2 of the community is "Must be articles relevant to US political news."

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Interesting. OK, so that clears things up.

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It's most likely because r/politics on Reddit was that way, and people tend to make subreddit clones on Lemmy.

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[-] kabe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

IIRC, over half of Reddit's traffic was US-based. I'd be interested to see if the same is true for lemmy.world.

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[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

US people are way too blind to the existence of the outside world. I'm sure they have no idea that Lemmy.World is not in the US. I'm not really sure what could be done about this other than making a new more broad politics community. I'd prefer the generic named community to be the one that is the most broad and then if you wanted only US politics to make a more specific community such as !USPolitics@lemmy.world.

I don't think it would be out of bounds for instance admins to force such change as they see fit if it makes enough sense.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

We all have preferences, but unless you convince the admins to be onboard for moderating communities so that they all follow a specific rule and can't be localized unless it's part of the name, I'd say let it go. I am not comfortable with the idea of allowing majority rules to simply take over a community simply because they think they have better use for the name.

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[-] NAS89@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Politics was my first blocked community on Lemmy. Then every other US politics community that has sprung up. They’re either echo chambers or flame wars and it’s irritating to use the internet as an escapism and run into arguments daily.

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[-] QubaXR@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I agree. on any other server it would already be questionable, but lemmy.world suggests international appeal. The default news should be world news, with each country heading their own channel.

[-] outrageousmatter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I'll speak to the moderators, if we should unlock it for international politics, but right now it's US moderators and I barely know italy politics or EU politics but am Interested in adding them.

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I suppose it's about moderation. It would be a bad idea to talk about European or south American politics if there's only US moderation. Política is a very touchy matter and needs a very good and diverse moderation team.

[-] NettoHikari@social.fossware.space 12 points 1 year ago

No, it's about Americans always thinking they come first. I was told so many times that "rEdDiT Is aN AmErIcAn wEbSiTe"... But now, they can't pull that shit any more.

I say rename the communities.

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.

I never got the impression that this instance specifically aimed to be international. It always felt like the aim was to replace Reddit in whatever way that manifests itself. I never got the impression that every community needed to be equally inclusive of content from all countries.

As for !politics@lemmy.world, I think part of the problem is that changing the rule would result in very little change since

So it may be better to just keep the US users isolate where they are and create a new sub that would just be less dominated by those users.

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago
[-] livus@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

@hyorvenn the great thing about the fediverse is that you're not limited to lemmy.world

The politics@kbin.social doesn't have that rule. I posted about Zimbabwe politics the other day and they seemed fine with it.

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[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I can see where you're coming from, however...Did you message the mods of /c/politics & ask if they might consider changing their display name to more clearly indicate their US focus? It's not ideal, but the display name is what's shown when searching for communities or seeing posts from them in local/all feeds, so it at least helps in that regard.

At the same time, as other comments point out, there are a number of other politics communities with a broader focus across other instances, so unlike Reddit, we can have a /c/politics in any number of other instances with different rules and without a US focus. In a weird way, it's almost better that the /c/politics here is US focused, as it encourages folks to post & discuss general politics (including the US) in other smaller instances.

Although, ultimately, this would come down to whether the admins would prefer such simply named communities to have a wider focus as their name suggests instead of a narrow focus as is happening here, but I haven't gotten the sense that the admins necessarily want to get that directly involved in community naming & creation tbh.

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[-] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The US have a world series for American football/American rugby which only they compete in. America is... errrm interesting.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Can we change the sub icon then? Since it's wearing an American flag hat thing?

[-] Zenzio@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe the first rule for any topic regarding politics should be to mark your topic/thread with a specific country code right in the title (e.g. US/GB/DE etc.). Maybe even at the beginning of the title of the topic. Obviously that sounds like a hassle to enforce.

In principle I agree, I very much dislike reading headlines about US politicians doing this and that as if I'm supposed to care. It's always some sort of circle jerk for one side or the other.

There is always going to be a large US community in any global politics forum. That is not a problem. And other parts of the world (let's say any country in Europe) are never going to be as vocal about their local politics in comparison. Bringing some sort of self-enforced order to these posts could be nice.

Edit: To clarify, I wasn't commenting because I'm bitter about a community being dominantly US. I do not browse this community. It matters little to me what happens here. The thing I'm mildly annoyed by is headlines like "Republican/Democrat politician #837 does dumb thing #929" showing up on the front page.

I'm aware we could always block a community. Though I would prefer that would be some niche community like e.g "Missouri politics". The reason I stumbled upon this thread in the first place was because it was on the front page.

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