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Why YSK: I’ve noticed in recent years more people using “neoliberal” to mean “Democrat/Labor/Social Democrat politicians I don’t like”. This confusion arises from the different meanings “liberal” has in American politics and further muddies the waters.

Neoliberalism came to the fore during the 80’s under Reagan and Thatcher and have continued mostly uninterrupted since. Clinton, both Bushs, Obama, Blair, Brown, Cameron, Johnson, and many other world leaders and national parties support neoliberal policies, despite their nominal opposition to one another at the ballot box.

It is important that people understand how neoliberalism has reshaped the world economy in the past four decades, especially people who are too young to remember what things were like before. Deregulation and privatization were touted as cost-saving measures, but the practical effect for most people is that many aspects of our lives are now run by corporations who (by law!) put profits above all else. Neoliberalism has hollowed out national economies by allowing the offshoring of general labor jobs from developed countries.

In the 80’s and 90’s there was an “anti-globalization” movement of the left that sought to oppose these changes. The consequences they warned of have come to pass. Sadly, most organized opposition to neoliberal policies these days comes from the right. Both Trump and the Brexit campaign were premised on reinvigorating national economies. Naturally, both failed, in part because they had no cohesive plan or understanding that they were going against 40 years of precedent.

So, yes, establishment Democrats are neoliberals, but so are most Republicans.

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And tbf, the portion of the right that is legit fascist kinda actually hates all those things. They've no love at all for their more economically-oriented allies.

[-] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would add that liberal means something different in USA vs. the rest of the world, so when a non-US progressive uses liberal as an insult it might mean closer to what we'd call a neoliberal in the US.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Nah.

We mean liberal, it’s only in the US that liberal means something different.

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[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The term neoliberal was created to be misleading.

[-] AlexRogansBeta@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Neoliberalism was created, as a term, to describe something real, pervasive, and problematic. It has been co-opted as an underserving boogyman by the left, and co-opted mistakenly by the right as libertarianism. Neither understand it's original formulation and what it names.

[-] afraid_of_zombies2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The biggest thing to mention about neoliberals is that they are strongly pro student loan debt slavery.

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Many leftists ( myself included) also have started to referring to neoliberals and other slightly-left centrists as just liberals" If you go right or left enough on the spectrum, liberal is an insult.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Money doesn't work unless some people have some and some people don't. The only way to actually fight globalism is with worker owned productivity becoming the norm. Otherwise you'll always be stuck with the political false dichotomy of "Right" (fascism) vs "Left" (right of center).

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Really wish there was a coherent structure to political labeling.

Follow a prefix-root-suffix system or something - one glance at name should give you some idea of where they land on the political spectrum and what their identity is built on.

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