I’m not European nor am I that young, but I share the same sentiment. Commuting by car isn’t good in a lot of aspects and kids are too expensive. Also having kids in this climate seems extremely stressful. Not only do you have to worry about extremely invasive tech, but you also have to worry about the changing climate and the (what seems like) global cost of living crisis
I am an USA resident. Two years ago got rid of my car. Walk to work. My wife and I agreed when we first got together 8 years ago no children. Even if I wanted a car or a kid I wouldn't be able to afford it. If I ever was able and wanted I'd adopt. I know too many people who were in and how shitty the foster system is. My aunt was a Saint and did it and actually adopted some of her fosters but the horror stories I hear.
I've recently started an apprenticeship in Germany, and it's quite interesting to see how many people are super into getting children sometime down the line. I'm like, dude, we can't guarantee a proper future for ourselves - what future is there to be had for children lol
People who are empathetic, climate conscious, and can think critically SHOULD have kids. You'll make the future a better place. Imagine if only the people that don't give a shit have kids.
Imagine having kids because of the things they should do to fix this place instead of because the world is wonderful and full of opportunity.
I wouldn't wish the future humanity has created on a stranger let alone my own flesh and blood. No thanks.
If we couldn't fix it, why make more people and lay that burden on them.
I can't imagine how much you'd have to hate your kids to place that burden on them
Right? If you're an empathetic, climate conscious, critical thinker, you'd see having a kid as one of the most heinous acts of cruelty within your ability.
Just gonna drop the poor bastard into the global dumpster fire and tell them it's their responsibility to sort out? Some top-tier parenting right there.
Doesn’t matter if you can’t afford live. Adopt a puppy.
Puppies can't vote, organise protests, develop technologies, or really do anything to help humans & the planet survive in the long-term. I love puppies but I don't get your statement in the context of this article and the survey.
I didn’t comment the article. It’s in the same vein as saying somebody should have kids because they are empathetic. It’s not about votes or evolution but rather paying taxes, taking care of the old and so on. Since we are all getting older we need somebody to pay the bill. It’s depressing, but truth is I don’t need a car because I can’t afford it. I arranged my lifestyle to take public transports or a bike, because I can’t afford it. If I can’t afford a car, I probably can’t afford a bigger space for a family, and then the cost of raising a human, when i barely scrape by by myself. Get a better paying job - doesn’t work for everybody. Moving somewhere for another job - doesn’t work for everybody.
You can adopt children, which should be done if possible - there’s enough lost souls in the world.
See how climate change isn’t a factor for getting children? It’s all about them Benjamin’s
You're not wrong. If one can't afford, then it's just not an option, and I agree it's probably not going to be good for anyone to have a kid in that scenario (whether making a baby or adopting).
That's not what the article is about though. Yes, technically it's not about empathetic people either, but in that case I've assumed that people who want to save the planet are likely to be empathetic (they think & care about their surroundings). I don't think that's too far-fetched.
If you were in a situation where things were affordable, would you get a car?
It’s Idiocracy.
It's what plants crave.
Every one in this thread should read this article, https://web.archive.org/web/20230603214937/https://bigthink.com/progress/pessimism-is-a-barrier-to-progress/
End doomerism! It helps no one
Small price to pay so that better people can fly on privater jets
We are already having fewer children. This may cause more issues as the average age of a population will skyrocket
Better to have those issues than massive resource shortages that cause migration and war.
I mean, those are coming regardless. We were fucked twenty years ago and it has only gotten worse.
Yes, they've already started, like in Syria, but we can and should mitigate and adapt instead of sticking our heads in the sand.
In fact the Europeans not having kids will increase migratiom quite a lot.
More people also means more hands to get more resources.
We're already past sustainable limits globally for many key resources.
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