Hamas has command center under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says | CNN Politics (amp.cnn.com)

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A US official with knowledge of American intelligence says Hamas has a command center under the Al-Shifa hospital, uses fuel intended for it and its fighters regularly cluster in and around Gaza’s largest hospital.

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[-] Misanthrope@lemmy.ml 53 points 11 months ago

"CIA declined to comment. CNN has not seen the intelligence cited by the US official. "

PICS or GTFO

[-] Fitik@fedia.io -2 points 11 months ago

Is that better?

[-] Misanthrope@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

I'm not understanding your comment. That's probably my fault. My comment was intended as a flippant/sarcastic way of saying, "I need more info before I fully believe that Hamas has a 'base' under that particular hospital".

I'm not saying it's a straight up lie. Just, that's a a statement with no solid evidence, so "get outta here with that".

Sincerely, what was "Is that better?" In response to? I communicated badly so I'm lost.

[-] Fitik@fedia.io 7 points 11 months ago

Maybe it's troubles of the Fediverse? I linked a picture in my reply, you can't see it?

https://fedia.io/m/world@lemmy.world/t/399191/Hamas-has-command-center-under-Al-Shifa-hospital-US-official-says#entry-comment-2433907

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

I'm not the guy you're replying to but I do not see an image in your first comment. Lemmy Connect for Android

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

No image on Sync.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No image on mobile browser version either

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

I see a picture, I'm on kbin. It looks like an overhead shot of the hospital with red boxes indicating "This is a Hamas control station".

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

https://www.walmart.com/ip/This-Is-a-Circle-Hardcover-9781510731288/576209936

I mean, hilariously weak proof kinda deserves it.

[-] GuidoMancipioni@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Same on Boost

[-] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Me neither

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 months ago

That's just a picture with a bunch of buildings highlighted. I don't see how that's proof of anything.

Like that "tunnel entrance" the IDF showed off the other day that was just a water resevoir.

[+] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -11 points 11 months ago

Dunno what could be shown to definitively prove it is a Hamas base

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Documentation? Pictures from inside the base? A third party source that has no bias in the situation (heh, good luck) providing conclusive testimony? Literally anything other than an overhead shot that's labeled with "We swear there's hamas here, guys, c'mon let us bomb more civilians!"

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And how do you do any of that without attacking and taking over the place? I got the impression that they hadn't taken it over yet so photos from far away were the best it is going to get.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

"We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!"

One of the most advanced militaries in the world and they can't figure out anything better?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My point was that it's really hard to convincingly prove something like that. Guns? Well could be planted. Armed people going in and out? Well those could be anyone! Some even took seriously my suggestion that perhaps they should film them walking around with Hamas flags flashing their Hamas ID cards, but that would be so ridiculous that it would be suspicious because of that.

Definitively proving something like that, yeah good luck.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 5 points 11 months ago

Maybe a bunch of Hamas fighters congregating there?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago

How do you show that from photos, are they carrying Hamas flags with Hamas IDs visible?

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

Potentially. It's certainly a lot better than an unpopulated, dingy basement and the promise that "it's a bad guy's lair!" from the very same people who blew up the hospital right above it.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

Potentially

Lmao

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 2 points 11 months ago

All Israeli soldiers have six pointed stars on their uniforms. Just show combatants that don’t have one.

[-] burchalka@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Videos released by Hamas show ppl in civilian clothing launch Mortars to Israeli territories, so can't really rely on uniforms.

[-] Misanthrope@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Must be a Fediverse thing. No pic on my end.

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

Let's just say for arguments sake that it's true. Would that justify idk an air strike on an active hospital? Is that how hostage negotiations are handled? Bomb the bank and be like well the robbers were holed up in the safe underground so really it's their fault we blew all the tellers into a fine bloody mist.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Let's just say that this further proves how hamas using civillian infrastructure as a living shield is an intended thing, if not strategy.

[-] Saxoboneless@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

That in no way exonerates or justifies those who are killing patients in an active hospital.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

In a way it does. It would be vastly different if Israel would bomb everything while hamas would care about their fellow citizens.

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz -5 points 11 months ago

Let’s just say for arguments sake that it’s true. Would that justify idk an air strike on an active hospital?

Yes.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Incoming Hospital Buster Bomb?

[-] febra@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Wait till we find out it was just a hospital basement all along

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