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[–] Mixairian@lemm.ee 148 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I'm just going to steal the response I read years ago.

"I possess a device, in my pocket, that is capable of accessing the entirety of information known to man. I use it to look at pictures of cats and get into arguments with strangers."

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (20 children)

I've started l to realize that actual information worth reading is not available. Like I cant access in depth medical course or text book in engineering. Lots of beginner tutorials marketed as 7 minute abs.

Information is valuable and nobody gives it away for free. We have access to a worlds worth of crappy, unvetted trash information. But the vast majority of the good stuff is still locked away as it always was.

[–] irkli@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Wow not my experience at all. Fkn amazing access to nearly anything I want and I've been a programmer electronics tech, car hacker whatever and the resources available to me is AWESOME! And I've posted 5000 pages onycown website.

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[–] yiliu@informis.land 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"It arguably made us all a lot dumber..."

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[–] plain_and_simply@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This does make me think. I remember the days where I would turn up at the library to read books. With my phone, I can read and learn but instead I doom scroll.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 94 points 2 years ago (14 children)
[–] gk99@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

This is the 50s, I think it'd be pretty easy to draw a line from casual racism to white supremacists. A key difference this time is that it's not just Germans led by one insane man, it's instead a bunch of redneck prices and conspiracy theorists.

[–] GeoGio7@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Before the US got involved in WWII, there was a giant Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden...

[–] nan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There was a lot more than that. There were Nazi sympathizers, and saboteurs, and those who plotted to overthrow the US government. People like Father Charles Coughlin reading Goebbels’ propaganda on the radio to millions of listeners and forming an anti-government militia, and legislators like US Senator Ernest Lundeen working directly with Nazis and reading speeches literally written by them.

Highly recommend Rachel Maddow’s Ultra podcast if you want to say holy shit every few minutes.

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[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 86 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"Yes, they are allowed to be on the same bus as us. No, we don't call them that anymore"

[–] jetsetdorito@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

"Bus? No we bulldozed hundreds of neighborhoods to build highways so now everyone has to have a car"

[–] joeJohn_electric@feddit.nl 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends where they appeared

[–] Zyansheep@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

And which person from the 1950s

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[–] struds@sopuli.xyz 83 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Things they considered morally fine (smoking, dropping litter, 40 year olds dating 16 year olds) is morally reprehensible, while things they thought were morally wrong or even outlawed are totally acceptable (homosexually, porn, divorce).

[–] Snekeyes@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You just explained a large selection of boomers.

[–] Countess425@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, a lot of them were born in the 1950s.

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why the Nazis are back, and in America of all places

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

Seeing how much overlap they have with the KKK, I don't think it'd be that surprising

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[–] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends a lot on the color of their skin.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

"You're telling me there was a black president and he wasn't assassinated? Sure, buddy! Now let me get back to my sharecropping."

[–] AlataOrange@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm going to go on a different angle on this one and say that we are much tougher on sexual harassment. I feel like a lot of people from the 1950s who have grown up on pulp sci-fi like Flash Gordon could accept a lot of modern technology and the internet as basically just magic. To be fair is how a lot of modern people also accept it. But I don't think they would be able to process the move towards egalitarianism that we have taken.

That is not to say that modern society is egalitarian only that we have made good strides in achieving that aim.

Edit: Turns out Gordon is from the '70s, but other pulp sci-fi exist so my statement stands.

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[–] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

We walk around with a little rectangle in our pocket that gives us access to the sum total of human knowledge, but we mostly use it for looking at funny captioned pictures, the same pictures over and over just with different captions.

It's called a phone but no one ever uses it as one.

[–] irinotecan@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also, the "video telephone" that everyone always so desperately awaited from the future? Yeah, we have that; no, nobody uses it, because we can't be bothered to dress up for a phone call.

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[–] Blastoid5000@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

#3 Why we still haven't got colonies on the moon

#2 Climate change

#1 That fascism is back

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[–] Antimutt@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That smoking is bad for them. You'd just be banging your head against their socially-acceptable-at-the-time drug addiction.

[–] rcmaehl@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Person from 2020 magically appearing in 2090 and being told caffeine/excessive sugar is now regulated and ID checked

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[–] eudoxus@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Most difficult imho would be to explain why we haven't advanced any further. If the person is 50 in 1950 he started with horse carriages and saw development to intercontinental bombers, rockets etc. The landing on moon would astonish him, advances in medical sciences and computing too but he probably would ask: "And what are you using that neat little gadgets for?"

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

I'm using this little gadget for all my banking needs, a significant amount of my shopping, to stay instantly connected with friends/family and strangers with common interests all around the world, to almost instantly find information on almost any topic, to watch any of a hundred thousand movies or TV shows instantly on demand, and it's also a telephone.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think you're severely underestimating how our daily lives have advanced. We've advanced so far that we don't even regularly use the thing that would blow the mind of someone from the 50s, like calling someone on the phone. Calling someone with your phone would already blow their mind, because the first handheld phone didn't happen until the 70s. But we don't really call people anymore. We send instant messages or if we want "a call" we do video calls, which is guaranteed to blow their mind because a) most people in the 50s had a black and white television, so being able to see colored picture in real time is just next level shit, b) you can see someone else in real time on the other side of the planet and c) it's going to feel like you're there because the image quality from the 50s is like a cave painting compared to what we have today. And that's just calling someone. Imagine what else would blow their mind, modern cars probably.

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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You have to goto the store to buy milk instead of having it delivered fresh

[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

My parents still do. The person who delivers it also delivers butter and eggs.

I'm not sure where the butter and eggs and stuff come from but he owns the dairy the milk comes from and he's part of a cooperative that pay for the equipment. According to him it's just not worth selling to the big stores as he makes more money with fewer customers doing it himself.

[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How easily we can know anything, yet how diligently we fail to learn anything.

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[–] crewman_princess@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We still work 8 hours/day!

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[–] EntropicalVacation@midwest.social 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That shitty actor from Bedtime for Bonzo becomes president.

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"Ronald Reagan, the actor?!"

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Statistically? Ok, you have to learn Mandarin and there are these things called time zones but you only get one but shouldhave at least 3.

Like 1 out of 4 people at the time were from China.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Ronald Reagan was President for 8 years.

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[–] OptimusPhillip@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"You see, the file itself can be copied by anyone, but this one little piece of metadata can never be duplicated. That means you own the file."

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[–] gaw@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You know what I'll be just take them grocery shopping at a supermarket and show them that for X amount of money you'll get less items.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We're still nowhere near making space travel as easy as taking a cruise ship.

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[–] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

The TikToc NPC trend

[–] derelict@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] JimmyDean@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably how we went to the moon and then later successfully sent a rover to Mars to study and take pictures. It's something I can't really explain on a technical level but it happened

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the fifties they were aspiring to that already, engineering seemed unstoppable. May not understand how we could pull it off and then our own kids don't believe us, though.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Frankly, the hard part would be explaining why got there and then just sort of stopped. They'd be disappointed we don't have a permanent lunar colony and manned missions to Mars yet!

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