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[–] WalkableProgrammer@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And Reddit is doing the same shit. Idk why they think it’s a good idea to give people monetary incentive to be batshit crazy

[–] spooksboots@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it makes them money. See, monolithic companies don't care about anything other than money and pleasing shareholders. The only way they will ever care about real life issues is if/when they transform into loss of revenue or pressure from their board of directors.

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shareholders can be batshitcrazy too. X/Twitter has been in decline for a while. It's true they could be leeching money from the he far right but I highly doubt so.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Elon took Twitter private, there aren't any shareholders to answer to anymore.

As for reddit, they've been trying to go public for awhile now but afaik they have not succeeded yet, so also no shareholders.

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, private companies at least have the opportunity to forego greed to ensure a better product.

Heck, even some public companies are able to do it if they can prove to shareholders going the greedy route is a bad business decision (an investor floated the idea around Nintendo that they should charge money to make Mario jump higher.)

This, however, is not one of those companies.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He is not the sole owner, he took it private with other people .

[–] gomp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

TBH it's not just reddit or social media: Internet's per-view ad revenue is exactly what ruined traditional newspapers (ok, some where shit to begin with)

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This post that's trending RN is pretty much the entire end game for social media, and why independent platforms like Lemmy, which is literally a bunch of people Kazaaing the shit out of reddit, is important.

Federation has a lot of flaws, and is not imue to somethings that are inherent to social media, like shilling or the exploitation of user info, but hell, at least it offers somewhat genuine interactions amongst users.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh joy, now that nazbol meme has made its way into comment sections.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

You're surpised a prolific shitlord like myself snagged that one for future use?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's who Elon wants on his side, so I'm not sure why this is even news.

[–] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Tbh at this point I'm convinced articles like this are just life support trying to claw back as many Musk dick riders back into normies.

It's good work, and I think it should be done, but yeah, this is exactly what a sane person would expect to see given all the context.

It's not news to most, but to the audience that I think this sort of thing is going after, it genuinely might be news to them.

Not that this article alone would get anyone to drop their fanboy bs, but it seems like it's intended to be a tool to facilitate that. As for why it's here specifically in world news, probably in case anyone wants to use it as a facilitation tool for anyone in their lives. Can't use what you don't know exists and all that lol

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah pretty much, this isn't accomplishing anything. Anyone who still can't see the fascist empire for what it is at this point will never see it.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Elon Musk is still a mixed bag in the broader public. There is still a lot of messaging to get out there and that will help people realize what he is. Not everyone is as terminally online as we are lol

[–] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the point of being "pro-Hitler"? the fucker is dead. And has been for ages. He's not taking back the power. I would understand "Hitler-sympathizer", but being pro-Hitler? You're a century late, buddy.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Substitute Hitler for a religious figure. Yes, I know, religious figures at least have mythology surrounding them to explain why they're still relevant. Anyone could just make that up about Hitler too though.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the difference between a pro- and a -sympathizer?

[–] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I guess it's a subtle difference. Perhaps it's just something that I think, and I'm not a native English speaker. It just sounds weird to me. being anti-Hitler would also be weird. He's already gone. Being pro-nazi or anti-nazi would make more sense(in my head)

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

We need to get this guy on a plane to Ukraine to spread this message.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So much for “speech not reach”. Fucking insanity

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I honestly say this with all seriousness. Go listen to the latest JRE podcast with Joe Rogan for a masterclass in cognitive dissonance. It is something that should be meme material like nothing else.

These two fucking guys spend the podcast droning on about how twitter was evil and social media was bad because it was controlled by the left. So he had to buy it and force it to change so it was more like what he wanted it to be. It is the funniest yet cringiest thing have I've listened too lately.

Listening to a billionaire factory owner talk about how he's saving the world with a multimillionaire C podcaster is something to witness first hand.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I'll jam a cactus into my urethra instead, thanks

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Weird but okay

Its worth listening to because the reasoning and justification is just so strange and yet they have the power and wealth to affect a lot of day to day life regardless if you're ignoring it or not.

Its only going to get worse because guys like Joe and elon can amass huge amounts of wealth easier than ever since our entertainment is such a stupidly dumb yet powerful industry. They then use to make everything how they want it to be.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would argue that that doesn't actually make it worth listening to, and I say this as someone stuck on a train that isn't moving and has the doors shut.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not though. We all should get out of our comfort zones. Its the only way to learn something new. I was surprised to hear the reasoning that elon and Joe used.

The one thing that people on the right do is that they will consume content they don't like so they at least know what they're arguing against.

People on the left live in massive self built echo chambers and are consistently out done on social issues because they're never prepared to argue.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But it doesn't improve or contribute value to my life and you're projecting a whole argument about a political statistical construct onto me.

The right don't argue unless they're defecting to the left, they mostly just perform the talking points and then smear non compliance as loss when they're the ones failing to engage with their rhetoric.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they have the power and wealth to affect a lot of day to day life regardless if you're ignoring it or not.

This is true, but my opinion of both of them is already rock bottom, so why spend time listening to something that's just going to make me frustrated, while not actually giving me any new info?

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hear that. It was just interesting to me to hear so much weird reasoning and logic. I would love to see a week of psychology lecturers on that one episode just to pull apart the shit that was said. These two are so out to lunch its funny until I was realizing that they also have the ability to buy up whole platforms because they didn't like it.

So listen just to get insight into ego and bullshit.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the suggestion, but pass - it'll just make me mad at both of them for no reason. I don't need insight on their ego, I already know they're both narcissistic pieces of shit who think they're saving the world as they burn it down

I don't need to give Rogan a view to know that he's a piece of shit.

[–] ksharp@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I listened to JRE regularly between 2019 until his sellout move from Youtube to Spotify in 2020.

The really sad thing about Joe is that you could tell he had (maybe deep down, still has, maybe?) a more reasonable side to his temperament. Some of his political sensibilities were decidedly liberal, even though he is mostly associated with being batshit insane these days and/or as a puppet mouthpiece of the right.

I guess $200,000,000 can really change a guy.

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago

Stalin come back.