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[-] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 44 points 10 months ago

What if I just want my phone's text messaging app to only do text messages? What if I don't want fluff features like voice messages that I didn't ask for? Is there a simple vanilla text messaging app to take over texts on my phone since Google feels the need to add extra weight to Messages, an otherwise simple feature that all cell phones share?

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 20 points 10 months ago

Luckily you're on android and not an iPhone. You can go ahead and install whichever text messaging handling application you would like in its place to use and switch the default app.

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[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

I personally use QKSMS, which isn't perfect, but it's all I've been able to stand since Signal dropped SMS support.

This RCS stuff scares me a bit, because it sounds like it will function over a data connection and not be nearly as universal of a standard as SMS/MMS is. There are already a million such apps and standards if one wants to use data for messaging. Trying to sneak it on top of SMS is very annoying. If I use my SMS app, I want my messages to be sent as such. Getting a surprise data bill shouldn't be a fear.

[-] thoughts3rased@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

RCS does function over a data connection (and WiFi!), however unless you're sending large files over the wire it's probably not going to have any effect on your data bill. Text messages are a handful of kilobytes large at worst. SMS/MMS have lots of issues to do with security and capability, and most handsets support it in some form already.

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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago

Trying to sneak it on top of SMS is very annoying

No one is trying to "sneak" anything. The ideal messaging app has advanced messaging features as the primary and then falls back to SMS if it's unavailable, and that's exactly how this works.

If you're looking for a less advanced and secure app, you can very easily install and use anything else.

[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

If I wanted a messaging app with advanced features, I wouldn't be using the SMS app that came with my phone.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 10 months ago
[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Because SMS is inherently feature-lite. But it's free and unlimited, which is kind of the whole point of using it over a feature-rich app that uses data.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago

A lot of messaging apps became popular because carriers were charging per-SMS in some countries.

Basic text messaging should consumer virtually zero data. If they are, you should consider using a different app.

[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Photos use a decent amount of data regardless of what app you're sending them by.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 10 months ago

It doesn't consume much more than it does on SMS

[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

SMS/MMS do not count toward data usage here. They are free and unlimited.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

QKSMS hasn't been maintained in a while, besides one update at the start of 2023.

It may be better to go with, and I personally just use, PartisanSMS which is an improved fork of QKSMS.

[-] kzhe@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

That looks like it's stopped being developed too. Connect You, a Contacts app originally, is adding SMS support— but right now it kind of sucks, so we probably want to wait a bit for development.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

I think that in SMS there simply is not more to have, they have everything needed.

[-] inasaba@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

There haven't been any issues, so I don't see why development is needed.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 10 points 10 months ago

You can replace it with any of thousands of old shitty SMS apps if you want. It's not iOS.

Most of us want advanced features and privacy. And unfortunately, in order to get those features, you often have to be using the same app/service across devices. Google seems to have finally caught on that constantly changing messaging apps is killing them, so they made an app to be the "default" on Android devices.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure not being iOS is a feature.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago

Yes that's what they asked for

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 8 points 10 months ago

Not if you want RCS. Google still refuses to make a user-level API for some reason. So you can only use the messenger app bundled with your phone for RCS.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Textra, QKSMS, NextSMS, PulseSMS, and so on. Many (most, all?) are much better than Google.

[-] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Pulse is shit now, it's been acquired by a sketchy company.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Bummer. I used it for years.

Maybe an old version from apkmirror?

[-] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, that could work. I just switched to Google Messages which, other than being from Google, is pretty good.

[-] Iamdanno@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For years I used Textra. It did SMS amazingly. I only switched to Google Messages for RCS support, although I believe Textra added that now.

[-] SteveCC@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm not seeing that it does RCS. Would love to see a Foss app that does. Anyone?

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

None do yet, because Google doesn't publish an API for apps to use RCS.

Another reason I say fuck RCS.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

None will, Google is slowly closed-sourcing the entire platform. Messaging was one of the next steps. Also why apps like Signal won't be seeing carrier messaging in the future.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

The fact we need Google and phone carrier approval to use the system is a reason to drop it.

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[-] Midnitte@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

They're also apparently adding markdown which is neat, but considering all the recent Google news of them trying to lock down the web, I'd rather they focus on adding an RCS API so other apps can exist...

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