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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 119 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I wonder if there's anything they could be doing to reduce the deaths of their young men who are of age to start building families (20-30 year olds)? It must be a total mystery if they're resorting to using female prisoners as breeders. I guess we'll never know.

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Jokes aside, what is going with these people minds? Lets send our people to die in wars and make women have more children? THE FUCK IS GOINGON?

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 113 points 11 months ago

These fears over population collapse are the weirdest form of mass hysteria I've ever seen.

[-] pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world 148 points 11 months ago

Not an expert on this at all but I feel like it's less of "the human race is going to die out" vs the owner class needs cheap labor and bodies for war to continue infinite growth.

My running theory is in the United States, Republican's obsession with abortion is tied to the fact they need poor and broken families to pump out kids for future cheap labor and the prison industrial complex to make a nation function moving forward. That and the gray sunami of a upside down pyramid with not enough young to take care of the older generations (I think Japan and China are experiencing this currently).

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well in Russia it's about replacing all the kids and men dying in Ukraine. The Russian losses are staggering and Russia is basically throwing their people into a meat grinder.

If only a fraction of a percent are coming home "after the war" Russia is in big big trouble regardless of population growth or shrinkage due to other causes.

In the USA I'd agree it's about cheap labor. They don't want to let the Mexicans in too so gotta keep those white babies flowing.

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[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Are you a hammer? Because I think you just nailed it.

[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago

Politicians have straight up said it’s a reason they are against abortion…

The data follows: https://www.epi.org/publication/economics-of-abortion-bans/

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[-] Rose@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Not from the perspective of someone whose only strength in the war in Ukraine is the number of people.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago

Most of the time, yes. When you're throwing a large portion of your population into a blender, it makes more sense.

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 90 points 11 months ago

Rape will become a patriotic duty

[-] Tedesche@lemmy.world 77 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure it’s already considered one if you’re in the Russian army in Ukraine.

[-] palal@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago

 A member of the Russian State Duma has proposed releasing women convicted of minor charges from prisons so they can conceive

Did anyone even read the article?

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 82 points 11 months ago
[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

Did you mean Russia, because the Republicans in the US seem to be marching to the very same tune?

[-] Il_winters_lI@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

They have the same boss.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 11 months ago

Lol invade Ukraine after promising not to. Getting entire generations of sperm makers killed in illegal war. Force female prisoners to be baby factories. Ladies and gentlemen: the bad guys.

[-] palal@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago

 A member of the Russian State Duma has proposed releasing women convicted of minor charges from prisons so they can conceive

Literally nobody here has read the article and it shows

[-] SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is the same country that decriminalized Domestic Violence leading to a fall in reporting from women as a result.

People who haven't read the article aside: I do not believe the Russian State member has women's best interest in mind with this proposal.

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[-] Argonne@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Force male prisoners into the meat grinder and force women prisoners to give birth. Birth from who..? Such massive dystopia in Russia. What a shame.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

Birth from who..?

Prison guards, I suspect.

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[-] sirdorius@programming.dev 59 points 11 months ago

Here's a crazy idea to make your population grow: how about not sending your people to die in a war?

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

nah, prison baby factories and lower the conscription age

also, not having babies is now illegal

[-] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 46 points 11 months ago

Prisons in russia are starting to look like revolving doors. Women get out if they choose to give birth, men if they choose to throw themselves into the meat grinder.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago

Ah. Coming to a ‘Murica near you soon.

[-] snoopfrog@midwest.social 30 points 11 months ago

This sounds much easier than creating a society where people feel happy and secure enough to have families. I wonder when 45 will add this to his campaign checklist.

[-] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Putlers Youth to a theater near you, coming soon. Fuck that guy!

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

Our species is totally on a brink of extinction.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

No. It'd be very difficult to actually have humans go extinct. Bad things will happen, but extinction would require a Children of Men level situation.

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[-] profdc9@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Never thought that Russia would become the Republic of Gilead, but I suppose they want to excel at something.

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[-] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 24 points 11 months ago

The plans included funding for new mothers and not just "maternity capital" for families with two or more children, in addition to welfare benefits for low-income families and free school meals for a four-year period.

Hey regressives! You love Russia so much, why don’t we follow their example?

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[-] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago
[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 12 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A member of the Russian State Duma has proposed releasing women convicted of minor charges from prisons so they can conceive, part of an effort to boost the country's low birthrate amid a period of high mortality.

Julia Davis, journalist and creator of the Russian Media Monitor, posted a photo Thursday on X (formerly Twitter) showing a billboard featuring a split image of a baby in the womb on one side and a young child wearing military fatigues and saluting.

In a piece published Thursday by The Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA), Davis documented how Russia's population dwindled by about 997,000 people between October 2020 and September 2021—its largest ever peacetime decline.

She also noted that the Kremlin has attempted to combat the population decrease by forcibly bringing in Ukrainian refugees, women and some 700,000 children—of which war crime warrants were issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova, commissioner for Children's Rights in the Office of the President of the Russian Federation.

The foundation, which has allegedly received grants and funding directly from the Kremlin, also openly instructs its volunteers to employ "manipulation" and deceit when talking with pregnant women.

Dasha Yakovleva, co-founder of the Feminitive Community women's group, told the Associated Press last month that a public protest involving 60 or so pro-choice advocates at a bookstore in Kaliningrad was meant to send a message to Putin and his ilk about attempts to ban abortions in private clinics.


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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago
[-] palal@lemmy.ml 35 points 11 months ago

 A member of the Russian State Duma has proposed releasing women convicted of minor charges from prisons so they can conceive

Can you people at least read the article?

[-] dreamer@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Seriously, this is one of the biggest things that we do not need to come over from Reddit.

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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

'Fall rather than decrease' wtf? And it's a good thing for there to be less people, there are too many in the world anyway.

The fantasy of infinite growth seems to include people as well to capitalists, and as I already mentioned, it's a fantasy.

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[-] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Glad to see that the long-lasting tradition of Reddit to only read the clickbait title is still alive here too.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Instead of reddit you can just say people.

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