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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 57 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Some Republicans are good at deceiving others into thinking they're good people.

I live in a red state. None of them are good people. If they were, they wouldn't align with a party of hate.

[–] AmberPrince@kbin.social 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I live in a very red part of Florida. They've all been pretty nice to me. Of course, I'm white, my baby is blonde haired and blue eyed, and I'm in the military. They usually get pretty surprised when I open my mouth and start spouting crazy commie stuff like Trans Rights are Human rights.

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

some republicans are ~~good people~~ not awful to literally everyone

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm a tall chubby cishet dude with a big beard in VA.

People say the quiet part out loud to me within 3-5 minutes basically anytime I go to a bar or something, and all the normies treat me like I'm the asshole when I disagree with the guy saying trans people are too in his face and need to dress appropriately because they're such a nice guy otherwise.

Well clearly they're not, are they, if they think entire sections of the population shouldn't be allowed to live their life (or whatever the subject is?)

[–] BeneGesseritWitch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

My partner passes as a straight cis white dude and works in finance and you are right, within the first interaction of meeting a bigot they will open their mouths and out themselves. And the worst part is, they nearly always phrase it as an in-joke, or an in-thing, like they are figuratively 'wink wink nudge nudging' him and it drives him fucking crazy that they just assume he's one of them and will nod or laugh along. Instead, he pulls a reverse uno and shames them, very politely, for various super neutral reasons: like not being professional and staying on topic, or for being a hr violation, etc. He's found the less progressive, more business-neutral language really fucks them up, they get super embarrassed

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 13 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I'm a white redneck looking cis male in South Dakota. Many of these "nice" people think I'm one of them and will share their most abhorrent opinions with me, which they may not disclose in polite company. It's to the point that I have to wear "woke" shirts that say things like BLM or trans rights to avoid these monsters.

I assure you my belief that Republicans are awful is not unfounded. Ask them what they think about LGBT+ people. "As long as they don't shove it down my throat..." Ask them what they think about Native people -- "That was so long ago, they need to get over [the genocide]." Ask them if climate change is real, ask them about the poor, ask them about undocumented workers.

Republicans are unfit for society. They would immediately be cast out of any functional community, and rightfully so. The only way to deal with them is to socially and systemically deplatform and disenfranchise them. That's why I'd never make friends with a Republican.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you are republican you believe in cutting social safety nets, pro war, anti gun regulation, and anti lgbtq. I view all of those as "bad people traits". I don't think anyone who can say they are for gutting welfare can also say they are a good person at heart.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They might be polite to a fault, but they're still not good. I agree.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. You can say please and thank you all you want, hold doors open for people, smile at them on the sidewalk, but that's all thrown in the garbage if you aren't willing to actually do something to help people.

Welfare is a great example - most republicans use the "it's being abused" line as their go-to reason that it should be scrapped. Being a good person is knowing that it is being abused - but the value of it helping people outweighs the 1ish percent of people who are on it and abuse it.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

Half of the programs are so neutered it's like, who cares that it is? Ohhh noooo this guy makes $23k instead of $22k he still can't afford to eat let him have his blistering $100 of ebt. 🤷

My favorite is catching those "I wouldn't work either if I could just live on a check!" types. I encourage them to get that ssi check if they can, while explaining that they'll have to spend their savings down to under a grand, if they have two cars they'll have to sell one, etc etc - all to pull like $800/mo that'll drop to $50 if they log so much as a few hours at a part time job.

If that sounds like heaven to you, live yo best life fam. 🤷 But I don't think that reality aligns with their vision of life of SSI.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Hard to describe, but this is one of the final confrontations of a story I’m writing, and I love it;

“Look, you don’t get it. We don’t need to fight. I’m not with those racist psychopaths, I’m just following their orders and keeping my head down.”

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

If you vote republican, you're not a good person, and never have been since the party flip-flop. They've always been the party trying to suppress the rights of anyone who isn't a rich white male.

And now they're literally traitors trying to overthrow our government.

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[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are you saying "some republican voters are good people" or "some republican politicians are good people"?

For the first one, that's probably true but irrelevant. I think most republican voters are trying to do good with their vote, but they've got so caught up in Republican fascism that they honestly think voting red is good.

For the second one, I highly doubt it. They don't have the cult behavior excuse, so at best, they're completely selfish, enough to put their job security over the lives of others.

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[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"I'm a good person. I just don't believe that kids should get food from the govt. So what if some kids are a little hungry. Their parents need to work harder"

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And some Catholics don't rape children. But they enable those who do.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Same goes for cops. If you support the people who hurt others, you're complicit in the hurting of others.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 28 points 11 months ago (15 children)

If you support violent extremists that try to install a dictatorship you're not a good person.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Everybody else is shooting you down here, But I'll meet you in the middle with an even harder to swallow pill.

There are Republicans who AREN'T BAD people, they are just ignorant. Not stupid, necessarily, but ignorant and uneducated. They might think they're doing good but they are very very wrong.

[–] AmberPrince@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

I worked with a guy that was a hard-core conservative, like just shy or real far-right talking points. Anyway he told me he doesn't watch the news. Not that he only watches fox news, I mean he doesn't watch any news at all. He gets his information from Facebook and tiktok

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[–] BeneGesseritWitch@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

Some republicans think they are good people. There, fixed it for ya

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You taking about the elected officials, or the voters? You'll have a much harder time finding politicians who are legitimately good people, let alone republicans.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I used to work for Republicans, much to my chagrin. To your point: the elected officials know they are misleading ignorant average people. They understand exactly what they are doing, ESPECIALLY when they're at their most hypocritical. I heard it from their lips repeatedly. They are all fucked in the head, even in personal interactions. It's trashier WWE.

[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Well they sure do a good job of hiding it

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"We're good people, we just vote for politicians openly calling for violence and retribution upon all their political enemies and fellow Americans, and vote to make people different from us illegal, and vote to strip every safety net to pass directly to the 1%, and vote to protect our God given right to clear an elementary school in 20 minutes with an AR, etc etc etc"

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

"We vote Republican cause it's a habit at this point"

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Every "good person" I know of every political strip is horrifically cruel and violent towards intelligent creatures many times a day. Absolutely needlessly. And they deal with this by simply not thinking about it.

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[–] Dubois_arache@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Introversion@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

If they don’t want to vote for fascists, they shouldn’t be in the Republican party.

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