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How do we even know that they're not already running instances? Why would they start announcing it, especially after the response?
This has to do with Project92, not just with Facebook hosting Mastodon instances. I wouldn't put it past them to discretely host instances to gather data, but we can't see them, and therefore we can't defend against them (and mass-defederation of potential instances is a recipe for disaster).
Try saying that five times fast.
Love everything about this
@alyaza I am conflicted on this. While I feel like it's probably the right thing to do as Meta would just destroy the fediverse if it entered it, it makes me uncomfortable that this network that is supposed to be so open and connected with each other can be so easily and glibly made into what is essentially yet another privately controlled website.
Quoting the FediPact:
Openness for the sake of openness is meaningless. Two things that are very valued on fedi are consent and freedom of association. The whole point of the fediverse is that instances are free to choose who they talk to. We don't have to federate with the likes of gab, for example. Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell, chasing a capitalist pipe dream
I'm not shure, there are a few good arguments against plain blocking of Meta.
This article is mostly against federating
https://privacy.thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surveillance-capitalism/
it does highlight contra's:
John Gruber describes the Anti-Meta Pact as "petty and deliberately insular" and suggests that the whole point of ActivityPub is to turn social networking into something more akin to email, which he describes as "truly open."1
Tristan Louis says "The anti-Meta #Fedipact can only achieve one thing: make sure that #ActivityPub loses to the Bluesky protocol."2
Dan Gillmor suggests that "preemptively blocking them -- and the people already using them -- from your instance guarantees less relevance for the fediverse."
Hell yea, fuck meta.
This is great, I don't think federating with Meta will benefit the admins' mission with this instance much at all.
I've seen a lot of sentiment shifting positively for Facebook (I refuse to call it meta) over the past few months and I find it kind of unnerving. Mostly outside of tech/journalism circles. Maybe it's just that standing next to Twitter, Facebook has looked a lot prettier lately or something but I don't understand how anyone can forget all the malicious evils Facebook has been and brought onto us. Could the name change have really bamboozled people into giving them a clean slate?
I'm all in on holding the line against them taking over the fediverse, glad to see the energy and I hope we keep it.
Look at what they are doing with Mark Zuckerberg. Their big PR campaign to show him as a mans man. Posting that he did the Murph challenge, talking about ju jit su, and accepting Elon's ridiculous challenge for a cage match.
There is this fairly obvious PR campaign to make him seem less like a emotionless robot.
Glad to hear it!
Good on them. Always imagine it was Reddit pulling this move.
let them create there's and lets see what happens. I do not like meta but i like their open source projects like react and lexical. if they do any unethical stuff we can just not use them.
if they do any unethical stuff we
If? When...
Refusing to federate with Meta servers is practically a no-brainer anyways.
Nobody really wants brain-dead facebook users on the fediverse anyways.^1^
1 > This, of course, doesn't include anyone owning a facebook account out of necessity who also has the technical knowledge to register and conduct themselves appropriately on the Fediverse in general.
Good shit
Amazing. Thank you!
ayyye ty <3
The link to the pact nearly blinded me. Animated falling hearts and bright pink background. For a minute there I thought I travelled back in time to the 90's. Also I hasten to add that everyone blocking Meta seems like quite an unfederated thing to do. That said I hate Meta, block 'em.
That combined with the lack of capitalization is off-putting for some reason. It grates on me and I can't put my finger on why.