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[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 87 points 11 months ago

It's an interesting thing, because when you have multiple unions actively working to stop Elon musk from doing horrible things with his company, and all he can do is lash out at them, it shows he does not have the mental capacity to bargain which means his company is going to lose more money than they would have, had he used his brain.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 31 points 11 months ago

He is a man of a principle, not a man of brain.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 28 points 11 months ago

Except his principles change with every new conspiracy theory and alt-right outrage propaganda poster.

[-] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago

His guiding principle is "always be a shitty evil cunt". He sticks by that, gotta give him that

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The guy who wants his employees to work 100h/week and sleep on the floor in the factory calls others insane. Yeah. I have nothing to add to that.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 61 points 11 months ago

“My guess is that Tesla will not remain in Sweden without collective arrangement.”

so … Tesla won’t remain in Sweden (lucky Swedes) – we already know Elon would rather shoot his foot than agree to anything that doesn’t benefit him personally and immediately …

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago

At the end of the day, a billionaire's primary ideology is money. Signing the contract, after failing to defeat the unions, will make him the most money at the end of the day, so I suspect that he will sign it.

Unless he feels like exiting the Swedish, Norwegian and German markets, of course.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago

while corporate ideology is money, there’s absolutely no thought put into it – immediate profits always trump long term savings – new customers are gold, customer retention is anathema – we’ve already seen multiple companies that would happily block entire countries rather than play nice – and Elon has proven himself far more infantile and narcissistic than anything we’ve seen before

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The primary ideology is not money all the time, though. Musk showed us that with Twitter quite well. His ego can get in the way of his profits.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Also lucky any-other-ev-companh that wants to snap up hoards of trained, skilled workers

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hordes

Unless you're calling workers possessions, locked in a vault somewhere

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I mean, that is sorta how corporations view people.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

no, no, don’t get ahead of yourself, the correct word is “resource”

[-] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Elon: “Clearly, this is MediaMatters’ fault…”

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 11 months ago

It's interesting timing, right when Sweden is making a breakthrough with sodium ion battery tech. Especially considering that batteries are the only thing Tesla actually produces, and that other EV companies are investing in Northvolt (the company that's pursuing sodium ion battery tech).

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

on top of everything else, Tesla insists on using their own chargers rather than anything standardized (like CCS in EU) similar to the whole custom-phone-connector mess that EU has been trying to move away from

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 11 months ago

Elon Musk thinks big. While most people would shoot themselves in the foot with a pistol, Elon dual wields sawed-off shotguns.

[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

There are solid reasons for the strikes. Failing to deal with the issues is insane, unless the company wants to Americanize the whole world.......

[-] Fjaeger@sopuli.xyz 27 points 11 months ago

You think there's any doubt they wanna do that?

[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

No, I think it's quite overt. I'm maybe being to mindful of the old Reddit hostilities for suggesting such things. Still acclimatizing to Lemmy even after all this time

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Calling it names ≠ dealing with it, you overgrown toddler.

[-] almightyGreek@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

What are the chances of a company owner agreeing with a strike? If they did then there wouldn't be a strike

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Your logic has no affect here!

[-] Prunebutt@feddit.de 15 points 11 months ago

The article actually doesn't focus on Musk at all. It was an interesting read, for sure. But the headline was a actually a bit clickbait-y.

[-] pudcollar@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

Of course The Guardian leads with Elon's grievances.

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Oh, so you two are on a first-name basis now?

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Oh sorry I should show more respect for Mr. .co.uk

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

It's a weird thing among bazingas to call their ruling class masters by their first names to pretend there's some chumminess and closeness, but contextually I don't think they were doing that.

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Yes but this was my one big chance to be silly

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

You used your chance well and made me chuckle.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Call him by his full name only, please: Mr. Elongated Muskrat.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

There are plenty of shortcomings of the Scandinavian model of succdem-infested bureaucratic mass unions but they're still able to pull off something like this and make oligarchs shit their pants.

The lack of a tradition for political interference in labour relations and the large membership makes it much more politically expensive for rulers to intervene in labour disputes.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It is the first time workers for the US carmaker have gone on strike and on Thursday, Musk, the tech billionaire and chief executive of Tesla, made his feelings clear, writing on X, formerly Twitter: “This is insane.”

He was responding to a social media post about secondary, or sympathy, strikes by Swedish postal services that are preventing licence plates reaching new Tesla cars.

Marie Nilsson, the chair of IF Metall, said the strike was not only a fight for Tesla workers, but to protect the Swedish union model.

Other sympathy strikes include those by service and communication workers, who have stopped distributing post and shipments to Tesla.

Some commentators have suggested that the action at Tesla could start conversations at the Swedish division of Spotify, the streaming firm, which earlier this year pulled out of talks about a collective agreement, saying it did not believe that would “add any significant value” for employees.

Comparing it to strikes in 1995 at Toys R Us, which the unions won, he said: “My guess is that Tesla will not remain in Sweden without collective arrangement.


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