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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by QuestionMark@vlemmy.net to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Even more strange is that when I type "PeerTube", some suggestions appear, but searching any of them will end up back on the "no results found" page.

The suggestions: Searching one of them:

It has been a few weeks since I first encountered this issue. I've tried again and again, but it never worked.

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[-] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What is your safe search setting set to on duck duck go?

If it is set to strict it will result in no results but if you set it to moderate it will return results.

[-] QuestionMark@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

It was on moderate. Turning it off didn't make any changes.

[-] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It is weird that your snapshots don't have the safe search options shown like mine and everyone elses. Do you have any content filters or anything like that on your devices or internet? They could be forcing it to be strict even if you choose otherwise.

[-] LyingPenguin@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You’re in Safe search: strict mode. It probably thinks it’s a term for porn and therefore blocks it completely. Set it to moderate or off and you’ll get results.

[-] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

well, you posted a screenshot searching not for "peertube" but for "peertube instance".

nonetheless, both work for me in DDG:

peertube

peertube instances

perhaps it's blocked by your isp?

[-] QuestionMark@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Searching "PeerTube" doesn't return any results. peertube (all lower case) doesn't return anything either. What's funny is that "pertube" returns the correct results for "PeerTube". It seems like it works like this: If the IP requesting the search is from my country and it's searching PeerTube or peertube it's going to block the search. But why should it?! PeerTube isn't blocked here. YouTube is though.

[-] Thormjolnir@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Might be a duckduckgo bug, but have you tried another search engine to see if it works there?

[-] QuestionMark@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I tried with SearX, and it worked.

[-] Thormjolnir@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then with that testing, either ddg filters results, or your ISP doesn't want you to use ddg.

Edit, or it is because they use bing. But use searx and be free.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago

Appears for me.

Is Peertube banned iny our country? maybe you're typing in a URL?

[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

Works for me too

Also remember that DDG is basically a private frontend to bing, just as much as Startpage is a frontend to google.

If bing has any problem with peertube in OP's country, DDG will have too

[-] parrot@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

so is it actually recommended to use ddg or not, I thought they were the privacy flag bearer

[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, it's complicated and it really depends on you in the end. I'll try to explain.

DDG has good results in any language and they donate a lot of money to privacy-related initiatives. That's great and very few do this, BUT they also depend massively on bing: if bing censors something, you won't be able too see it in DDG. There have been a couple other controversies but they are pretty minor imo and almost every privacy-oriented company has those.

Brave search is great and has the best independent index among all private search engines, but it's 100% reliable only for English results and people usually either love or hate brave for its involvement in crypto and a couple of other minor controversies (people love to pick hills to die on)

Then there are meta-engines, who give you the best private results across the board (duh, they look for them on every search engine) but they don't really contribute to the scene like ddg (or even brave) does.

So yeah. DDG is not a bad choice by any means but everything has caveat. It's up to you to stay informed about the software you use to make a conscious choice

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9q3qPxrTqg this is a good overview

[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It is? Aw maan, I thought ddg is something independend. Now I might have to look for another search engine again.

[-] QuestionMark@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can confirm this. I tried with bing. Same result. That was why it wasn't working, because of bing. Thanks! I'll probably to switch to something else now.

[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

I just looked it up too and it shows up for me in bing, it's probably your ISP at this point.

The point I've made before still stands, not in this case though

[-] QuestionMark@vlemmy.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just tried it with a VPN and it worked. Turning it off and refreshing the resulted in no results again.

But I can open https://joinpeertube.org/ without a VPN. This confuses me.

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

DuckDuckGo clearly censors results based on IP.

[-] webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Duck has always felt like a shittier more cencored version of bing to me. I have no idea how people stand it.

[-] abieNathanTheyThem@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You could be dealing with a Spyware poisoning your search engine results or it's done on a large scale deep packet inspection on the networks you're using.

In the meantime I recommend Searx, it's an open-source metasearch engine.

Just to be clear Duckduckgo isn't at fault & always uses a VPN it's the least you can do to protect yourself online (If there are financial struggles ProtonVPN is a free & open source reliable alternative.).

[-] QuestionMark@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had tried SearX. It was good until I tried searching in my own language... Guess I'll have to use SearX for my English searches and DDG when it fails. Thank you for the info.

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