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Goose chase meme. In the first frame, the goose asks "all the data is encrypted?" In the second, the goose chases a person, asking "encrypted how and with whose keys, motherfucker?"

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[–] pohart@programming.dev 98 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I once had to work with a government agency that insisted they generate and provide my private key.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

At least they told you about the wire tap?

[–] 8ace40@programming.dev 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm migrating millons of encrypted credit cards from one platform to another (it's all in the same company, but different teams, different infra, etc).

I'm the one responsible for decrypting each card, preparing the data in a CSV, and encrypting that CSV for transit. Other guy is responsible for decrypting it, and loading it into the importer tool. The guy's technical lead wanted me to generate the pair of keys and send him the private key, since that way I didn't have to wait for the guy and "besides, it's all in the same company, we're like a family here".

Of course I didn't generate the key pair and told them that I didn't want to ever have access to the private key, but wow. That made me lose a lot of respect for that tech lead.

[–] IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

So you wanna be key buddies? Respectfully.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I know one municipal agency that does the same...

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 67 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] verdare@beehaw.org 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fact that you have to enter your iCloud credentials directly into the app was a red flag.

Security PSA: Don’t enter passwords or other secrets for important accounts directly into a third party UI. This is why we have tokens and federated login. Third parties should never see your Google/Apple/whatever credentials.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Security PSA: Don’t enter passwords or other secrets for important accounts directly into a third party UI.

By chance, would you (or some other passerby) happen to know how this is handled with the Lemmy apps/interfaces? I've been mixed on using them since I'm unclear how they're handling this info.

[–] verdare@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hmmm, that’s a good point. I did type my Lemmy credentials directly into at least two different apps. I guess it would be better if it redirected to a login page provided by my instance (Beehaw). But I also don’t consider my Lemmy account to be very critical. It’s not a huge deal if it gets compromised, as long as it’s not associated with my real identity.

EDIT: Also, I use a password manager, so a leak of my randomly generated Lemmy password shouldn’t affect anything else.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Probably also whatsapp chat, imessage, and other proprietary encrypted messaging apps out there.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Many chat apps actually use the Signal protocol for end to end encryption. This includes WhatsApp, Google Messages (RCS), Facebook Messenger, and Skype. iMessage doesn't seem to use it.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 8 points 11 months ago

But we also can't check their process since they are closed source. Also, if they can decrypt in the browser or proprietary app, then they can still read your messages. Browser is vulnerable to other attacks.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

That's not even Nothing Chats' biggest problem: it's that it gets completely MITM'd by going onto some mac mini in some server farm somewhere.

[–] the_seven_sins@feddit.de 46 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I suggest we rename base64 to ’Military encryption’.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 27 points 11 months ago

ITS NOT ENCRYPTION ITS ENCODING D':

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I love seeing ads touting "military grade" things, it basically means...it probably isn't worth buying.

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

'Military GRADE encryption' *

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Isn't that rot13?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

It's encrypted by changing the font to windings and making the text colour white before sending.

[–] Speiser0@feddit.de 30 points 11 months ago

Our website is using ssl, to keep you protected.™

[–] JackLSauce@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.... The data are encrypted

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ugh. This is one of the correct usages that actually bothers me.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Correct according to whom? The word has a long history of being used with a singular verb. The dictionary indicates it is usually used with a singular verb. Only a small number of people insist on trying to override this.

Who cares if it is plural in Latin? Once something moves into a new language, it’s not beholden to the old language. We don’t use a plural verb with “spaghetti”. Germans borrowed the word “party” from English and they pluralize it as “partys” — they don’t need to follow our rules for what is now also their word.

Don’t give in to these people who claim that “data” is supposed to be plural. They are treating a personal preference as a fact.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

To be fair, German (and other languages) borrowing from Italian is a whole can of worms, but you're right: Borrowed words don't need to follow all the declination or conjugation roles from their original language.

See also: Two espressos. One zucchini.

[–] pythonoob@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

God I think I love you

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] quantenzitrone@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

that actually called encoded🤓

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So there's like a talking goose and your first thought is to criticize it on grammar?

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago
[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 15 points 11 months ago

Encrypted by Lava_Lämp®

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 11 months ago

it's ok i'm always losing my keys anyway

but my couch cushions are pretty secure

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 14 points 11 months ago

just a vigenere cipher because budget cuts

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

openssl and I created my own keys! suck it, verisign!

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Now tell me all the {en,de}cryption points in your event sourcing.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I'm a goose and I'm coming for yous!