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[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 157 points 11 months ago

The part of the speech that was removed:

“History isn’t history anymore. Truth is not truth. Even facts are being replaced by alternative facts and driven by conspiracy theories and ugliness. In Florida, young students are taught that slaves developed skills which can be applied for their personal benefit.

The entertainment industry isn’t immune to this festering disease. The Duke, John Wayne, famously said of Native Americans, ‘I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them. There were great numbers of people who needed new land and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.’

Lying has become just another tool in the charlatan’s arsenal. The former president lied to us more than 30,000 times during his four years in office, and he’s keeping up the pace in his current campaign of retribution. But with all his lies, he can’t hide his soul. He attacks the weak, destroys the gifts of nature, and shows disrespect, for example, by using ‘Pocahontas’ as a slur.”

Meanwhile:

The actor appeared onstage at the ceremony on Monday night for the presentation of the Gotham Historical Icon and Creator Tribute to Martin Scorsese’s Killers Of The Flower Moon, a film distributed by Apple that focuses on a series of murders targeting the Osage people in Oklahoma during the 1920s after oil was discovered on tribal land.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 122 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Clipping a way Jon Stewart and now editing speeches. WTF is going on.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 113 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Apple is about making money. If honesty and integrity do not increase profits, they will be discarded.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 72 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Which is unbearable because Apple loves to pretend they care about issues

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 69 points 11 months ago (3 children)

They all do until it affects profits.

Corporations are legal people but they are all literal psychopaths. They will do or say anything to keep the profits rolling and the real humans mean nothing to them.

We are nothing but a means to an end and that end is profits.

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

We created runaway AI decades ago. No computers needed.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Crucial addition, there's no level of profit or savings (accumulated profit) that's enough. If margins or units can be increased, they will be increased, yielding higher profit.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 9 points 11 months ago

Yep. He references issues both in the past and present that tie directly into this film they're promoting, yet they censored all this out while pretending like they give a shit about these causes because they put it into a for-profit movie they created.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Looking like they care about "privacy" and "issues" is purely accidental.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (6 children)

It's Apple, did anyone expect integrity?

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[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 108 points 11 months ago (5 children)

How do execs not understand the Streisand Effect yet? If DeNiro had just made the speech and criticized Trump and the industry, I never would have read past the headline. Good for him for speaking out, but I'm good and over "celebrity bashes Trump" stories. Ah but Apple censors Trump criticism, well now you've got my click and my eyeballs. So dumb. Also evil. But mostly just dumb.

[–] SVcross@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

I work in a corporate. It is impressive how often people forget about the Streisand effect.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What worse is, I was thinking of watching the movie, but knowing it's Apple, and knowing all the control they try to push on the content, then maybe is not worth it.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yo ho ho ho, come sail the high seas, friend.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I been there since 2010 but lately getting into cinematography so I was interested in cinematic experience.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

Yeah, "famous actor insults Trump" is such a "dog bites man" story I never would have even registered it.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago

I've never even heard of this award show. There probably wouldn't even have been an article about it.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Yes, but now they have plausible deniability. They only care that they're not taking the blame for it, not that it's being said. "We tried to stop it, don't blame us".

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 93 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Tim Apple has to stay on Trump's good side so he doesn't get thrown into the concentration camp with the rest of the gays when Trump gets into office.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He and Peter Thiel will just move to another country in their private jets, nbd.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What drives me bonkers about all this is that Peter Thiel, a prominent right-wing figure, was doing exactly what all those QAnon nutjobs were accusing people like Clinton of doing, yet they never acknowledge this and instead focus on stupid shit like a pizza parlor with a nonexistent basement.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Every accusation is a projection.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

I think this is the reasoning of many on the right.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

... in response to “feedback from the filmmaking team that wanted the actor’s remarks to be centered on the movie.”

Fuck that. You had de Niro submit a speech because you want to broadcast his words. You tried to make him a puppet and have your words in his voice.

The only thing actions like this cause is that it makes people wonder how many times smaller voices simply just went with the puppet speech.

I can't believe they asked someone of talent to write a speech and think he'd just roll along with major changes in the voice.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I can't believe they asked someone of talent to write a speech and think he'd just roll along with major changes in the voice.

Me either. Absolute fucking Muppetry.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 11 months ago

Fuck all that noise, I am going to take De Niro at his word on this. They probably knew he wouldn't approve the edits and tried to force it on him. How disrespectful.

[–] Humanbiscuit@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Definitely read the article for context. It does not reflect well on Apple at all. I know that’s probably unsurprising and not even close to the worst thing we have read about them, but it’s just another disappointing example. What an awful lack of options we consumers have in trying to choose products and services from ethical sources. Also, excellent speech by De Niro.

It's almost like there's really no ethical consumption under this particular system

[–] gila@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Well, the first trillion dollar-valued company superpower whom outclasses the rest in terms of capital gains several times over probably isn't the best place to start looking.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 35 points 11 months ago

Only money plz no expression.

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