Hamas Claims youngest Israeli hostage Kfir Bibas has died alongside his mother and brother (news.sky.com)

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Hamas has claimed its youngest hostage - a 10-month-old boy - has been killed along with his four-year-old brother and their mother.

Shiri Bibas and Kfir and Ariel Bibas were taken during the terror attack on Israel in October and were the highest-profile civilian hostages yet to be freed.

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[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Dunno why this was deleted before. Posted with a new source.

[-] little_cow@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Rule 1

The previous had a post title that did not match the article title

[-] JoeHill@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

This was the prior source https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/hamas-armed-wing-announces-death-of-youngest-hostage-kfir-bibas-imluwubn

[-] Kolrami@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

"There have been occasions in the last week or so when hostages who had been declared dead by one of the armed groups in Gaza actually turned out not to have died - and have subsequently been released," said Bunkall.

It's bizarre for an article to quote her here without the article talking about any examples.

[-] steventhedev@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The only instance of this I can recall off the top of my head is PIJ claiming that Hanna Katzir was killed. Hamas have not publicly announced the death of any hostages in ways that have been confirmed or reported by respectable journalists, but there is lots of propaganda being spread through Telegram and other platforms.

[-] porcariasagrada@slrpnk.net -2 points 11 months ago

declaring them dead means they have to give up the bodies. but terrorist think if they declare them dead they can keep them for future demands or exchanges. so both cases are possible but hamas being experineced in this maccabre trade knows that dead means handing over the bodies, otherwise no peace.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

I can't even imagine the level of evil that it would take to make the decision not to let them go. It's truly mad.

Both sides are wrong, wrong, wrong and I am tried of people thinking Hamas did nothing wrong, and its all Isreal.

Both sides need to remove all the people involved and start with new groups that aren't terrorists or right-wing authoritarians.

[-] filoria@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Hamas claims they're buried under rubble from an Israeli airstrike. I sure wonder why there's difficulties recovering the bodies...

[-] itscozydownhere@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Hamas is scum

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Imagine caring for a 10 month old baby while being abducted and held hostage by genocidal terrorists

[-] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

And then getting bombed by your own country. Just imagine it.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

And then having to live through the deaths of both children, while in captivity. Horrible.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The group's armed wing, al Qassam Brigades, said on social media that Mrs Bibas, 32, and her sons died in an Israeli airstrike before the current ceasefire.

"IDF representatives spoke with the members of the Bibas family, informed them of the publication [of the claims] and are with them at this time," a statement read.

Relatives made a special appeal on Tuesday after the family was left off the penultimate list of people to be freed under the current truce deal.

"We reach a dead end every time we try to figure out why Hamas is having so much trouble getting them back, or whether that means if they're alive or not," she said.

Sky's Middle East correspondent Alistair Bunkall said the family would now be desperately hoping the Hamas claim is false.

"There have been occasions in the last week or so when hostages who had been declared dead by one of the armed groups in Gaza actually turned out not to have died - and have subsequently been released," said Bunkall.

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[+] teichflamme@lemm.ee -6 points 11 months ago

Hamas are absolute scum and I hope the IDF clears out every single one of them.

Imagine executing a 10 month old baby and thinking you're not the bad guy.

[-] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Imagine dropping a bomb on a baby and then blaming it on the kidnapper

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee -5 points 11 months ago

Imagine taking the side of someone kidnapping a baby because you hate jews so much

[-] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Where is any sort of hatred towards Jews even so much as implied in that message.

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

I can't think of any other explanation that would make you take the side of literal terrorists kidnapping babies.

[-] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I didn't realize thinking babies shouldn't be bombed was a pro-terrorist position

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

That's because you're an absolute moron I guess.

The reason they were bombed is because they were fucking kidnapped and held hostage.

Shifting the blame from the kidnapping terrorist group towards a nation at war that didn't know they were there in the first place is one of the worst shit takes I have seen on here and that really means something.

You really got to be the least sharp tool in the proverbial shed to even contemplate this.

[-] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

The reason they were bombed is because Israel dropped bombs on them. Seems pretty simple, but maybe that's because I'm so dumb.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

You can’t kill a movement like Hamas through violence. For every person they kill they just radicalize more, and violence begets violence.

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

How would you do it? Israel tried to negotiate for a long time and in better faith then Hamas.

Every imaginable approach of defeating irregular combatants has been tried and nothing worked.

Look at Afghanistan where NATO built schools and hospitals, and enabled women to have basic human rights.

Look what happened after NATO left.

The difference is Israel can't just leave and let Hamas do their thing because their thing is killing every single Israeli possible.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

It’s hard to say at this point. After a 75 year campaign of terror, apartheid, and ethnic cleansing it’s hard to say what could reasonably turn that around. Maybe looking to South Africa is a good model towards peace. They’re not in great shape but it’s much better than where they were during apartheid.

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

South Africa was one country and didn't have one faction that lived for eradicating the other faction

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