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[–] bunbun@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In many regards it's worse. Chinese schools are extremely individualistic and competitive, as well as centered around teachers' authority. They're exam/test oriented, especially closer to the OG "first tier" cities. After each one of those exams the ranking of all students is published, and if you're outside of the top 20% you are pretty much considered a failure. This puts an insane amount of pressure on students. Since 2010 the suicide rates have been steadily decreasing for general population and for age groups 25+, while for younger people, and especially for the 5-14 group they have been rising significantly.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Another rare China L.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s worse. It’s every man for himself and if you aren’t the absolute best of tens of thousands, then you are a failure.

[–] FlightSimEnjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 11 months ago

I think this is a global issue, not just an USA issue.

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anyone here actually been through or worked in the Chinese schooling system? Where are all these opinions sourced from?

I've got parents complaining that tuition centers are being shut down becasue they're a means-based advantage, homework quotas are being severely curtailed, and combined with the gaming curfew a market is being created for more creative and social activities to replace the tuition center and games-console-as-babysitter cultures.

[–] RenownedBalloonThief@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Xi issuing his most totalitarian command yet: "Go outside."

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

You WILL go outside.

You WILL touch grass.

You WILL like it.

[–] TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Anarchists nightmare lmao, gaming restrictions, bedtimes, and the outside world

[–] neidu@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago
[–] TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Honestly, rare China L, but they're kind of similar based on what I've read. Not necessarily ideologically wrong but VERY intense, extreme school hours, a TON of pressure on kids to perform academically.

It makes sense based on their material conditions (in that they have to compete with the west and make sure their generations are peak intellectual rigor and prepared to fight imperialism) but it still is hella shitty.

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In America, schools are segregated by wealth. Wealthier people buy houses in more prominent neighborhoods, while poorer people are redlined. Subsequently, their children are segregated, as public school attendance is based on your residence.

While there is more freedom, children are also given every chance to “fail” to become part of the labour reserve. And this chance becomes much greater with the poorer school districts and poorer families.

And by “fail”, I don’t mean they lack the capability of performance, but rather there is a “professional standard” that they fail to adhere to this standard to be selected to progress in their education.

[–] sharkfucker420@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah it's pretty shit there too. Children are treated pretty shittily globally and while it varies in magnitude from culture to culture it tends to be bad everywhere

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Much worse than USA even with billions of Renminbi of tax money.