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submitted 1 year ago by crazyminner@sh.itjust.works to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

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Can we all stop the in-fighting for a minute and realise how awesome the platform we are on is?

We are forming communities on the realized image of the internet that we were told we would have back in the 80s and 90s.

You can make your own home on the web and have your own niche community, not owned by any corporation, while still being connected to the wider internet.

This feels like something out of a sci-fi movie.

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[-] Ramin_HAL9001@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We are forming communities on the realized image of the internet that we were told we would have back in the 80s and 90s.

Exactly! Back in the 80s, tech enthusiasts would run their own dial-up message boards in their homes. The Fediverse is like that, but with all the benefits of modern technology. Anyone can run their own instance if they have a decent internet connection (usually fiber). But it is more than just message boards: they can run Lemmy, Mastodon, Wordpress, and even things like Tor and NextCloud, and instantly contribute their computing resources to the larger Fediverse community.

[-] bastetfurry@mastodon.social 7 points 1 year ago

@Ramin_HAL9001 @crazyminner
To add to that, it became dirt cheap to get hosting. Like under a pack of cigarettes per month cheap.
Did a little analysis over on my blog going over the shoestring methods for those interested: https://blog.lionscade.de/show/7

[-] skiba@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Just wanted to say I appreciate your reference of the Dodo.

Reject modern life, return to Dodo

Cheers mate.

[-] iSharted@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not that well read on this subject, but you can do this in your house or with a VPS? I always thought there was some conflict with residential internet and selfhosting?

[-] lemmymarud@lemmy.marud.fr 3 points 1 year ago

You can have issues with self hosting on a residential connection if your provider gives you a CGNAT connection and not a dedicated one. With CGNAT (Carrier Grade Network Adress Translation) your line is shared between multiple users. So are the ports, so imagine you're trying to open a port on your router and expect to reach from internet to your home using that port. Your carrier may have splitted the whole available ports pool between the 4 customers behind your IP, and when you try to reach : your packets may go Somewhere else. This thing is ok for when you use internet for classical browsing, not when you try to have traffic initiated from internet up to your home

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Many ISP:s also forbid hosting servers in their terms of use, regardless of the technical possibilities.

[-] mindfultameprism@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

This place is fantastic. I'm still working on convincing my husband that it's going to take the place of Reddit but I'll wear him down. He thinks because a lot of the posts only have a few comments and 20 or so up votes, it's not a valid community. I think it's just getting started and it's exciting to be here early.

[-] hemmes@vlemmy.net 16 points 1 year ago

[-] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

we're now at 500 upvotes and a custom meme!

@mindfultameprison 's husband: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

[-] Thurgo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I'm really enjoying the relative lack of content and what feels like an absence of astroturfing or bot content and votes. Way less dillholes and the interactions I see are generally meaningful and kind. I'm slowly building my subscription list of communities and can check in on top posts for the day in the morning and evening. I really felt a compulsion to read most of the posts for the day on my few favorite subreddits (mostly picture based so lots of cool shit to look at and get inspired by). I have those communities set up in an RSS feed for when I'm looking to scroll through stuff.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This may sound like a stupid question, but how do you find communities? Is there a list or anything?

[-] krdo@lmmy.net 6 points 1 year ago

This one is decent: https://browse.feddit.de/

[-] fuser@quex.cc 3 points 1 year ago

Find your reddit community on the fediverse:

Lemmy Community Browser

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I remember Reddit days when 5k upvotes was off the charts.

[-] Kalabasa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I remember when they switched the formatting of vote numbers, e.g., from 5,238 to 5.2k, and realized it’s getting mainstream (which is not bad in itself, but... there’s something with a small community).

[-] rmspc@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Any community is a valid community, if there's 20 upvotes that's still 20 people who saw, enjoyed, and gave it some time, and that matters on the modern internet where there's a bit more gatekeeping than usual!

[-] coldv@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It is not as resourceful for asking a specific technicial question, but other than that, I am actually enjoying the smaller communities. It feels a lot more civil.

[-] SMTRodent@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I think over time it will be. Usenet used to hold the body of knowledge, then it was fora and then reddit.

[-] Xer0@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

That's why I like this place. Feels very old school somehow. And it's an actual protocol, like back before everything was the same handful of companies running everything with their own BS software.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It really does feel a lot like the old forums are back, but now they can talk to each other. This should have happened a decade ago!

[-] flameguy21@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

kinda reminds me of the old internet when no one knew wtf was going on and everyone was just doing weird shit for fun

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[-] sauna7843@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The freedom of expression is relieving and oddly something I forgot existed. There has been so much censorship and polticial correctness that it has ruined what made the old internet fun.

I would love to see Youtube be next in federation migration!

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[-] sauna7843@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

It has been quite emotional to see this community grow! I was a lurker here when Lemmy only had hundreds of users and to see such a vibrant and diverse set of instances form has been wonderful! I hope to see this platform returning some of the nostalgia from the Golden Age of the Internet. An internet for fun!

[-] pattmayne@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I agree.

BUT some degree of infighting means we're alive and engaged with the platform. I think it's healthy infighting.

[-] Ramin_HAL9001@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly. No human community exists without infighting. Infighting is not a good thing, but it is a good sign -- a sign of growth.

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[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I keep telling my wife how awesome the Fediverse is. She doesn't share the same sentiment I do, but she also doesn't care about Reddit. I'll win her over one day.

[-] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

we just need to find her brand of community and have you show her a few posts a day. Whats she into - succulents? scary stories? funny videos? CATS?

we can do this

[-] higante@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's only infighting because we're all members of a living community. Other wise it's just fighting

[-] Gentoo1337@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

In-fighting? What did i miss? lmao

[-] fugepe@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Ill kill you

[-] flameguy21@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

let's commit war crimes

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[-] IWriteDaCode@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Fediverse is old-school internet! With some twists of course, but having new school social media in a decentralized way is great. The good & bad thing is there's a higher filter for getting on, so people here are nerdy and techy, but most 'normals' might not take the time.

[-] twhite@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The fact that everything is just "working" feels great!

Apps like Jerboa have made it so seemless to transition from deaddit.

Looking forward to the upcoming features that make the communities easier to join for the layperson.

Cheers!

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

I'm honestly really impressed by the fact that it is just working.

In les than a month Lemmy saw an exponential growth and from my point of view it was always very smooth. It was a bit slow from time to time but knowing that all of that is just running on a bunch of servers puts together by few passionate relying on donations or just their personal resources.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Where's the fighting?

[-] darkmatterstyx@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm guessing they were referring to the defederation issues that came up.

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[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

No you shut up!

[-] hemmes@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

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[-] KuroJ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I’m enjoying the ride. Love it here!

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure where you’re hanging out that you’re seeing infighting.

Also, I’ve been living in the Internet you describe since 1990. All it takes is intentionally saying no to the corporate offerings; there have been self-hosted and crowd-hosted communities the entire time.

Every once in a while I miss Fidonet though.

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