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A tiny, cheap device lets criminals create their own machine guns (www.nbcnews.com)
submitted 11 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/news@lemmy.world
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[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ATF seems really hot and horny to hassle regular gun owners who follow the law (look at the federal prosecutions, "rule changes" and crackdown on FFLs over minor paperwork issues under this administration).

It would be nice if they would actually incarcerate real fucking criminals who are walking around with Wish.com Glock switches. Possession of an unregistered machinegun is a federal crime with a 10-year sentence. Start actually prosecuting all the high school aged gangbangers who are walking around with these for the street cred value.

As a sidebar, 99% of the people carrying these are idiots who have never trained and can't hit the side of a barn with a regular handgun, much less a fully automatic handgun.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let the idiots have full auto, safer for everyone.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

All those lost bullets are safe for nobody.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"we’re talking about the rate of fire being 800 or even 1,000 or more rounds a minute. Think about how many bullets that is."

Um yes that's a fast fire rate but unless you have a 800 round magazine (which would probably be the size of a small microwave) slid into your Glock, you aren't firing that many bullets.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, there are 50 round drum mags for glocks, and even a 100 round (350 dollar) double drum for some insane reason. That's probably begging for a 1 rpm fire rate though.

[–] SheeEttin@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That assumes they won't jam after the fifth round. Nobody uses drum mags because they're so unreliable.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Hence the 1rpm comment

[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Also, achieving that kind of firing rate without muzzle cooling would result in a literal meltdown, sooner rather than later.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not important in terms of sustained fire. It's important because at that rate you are going to rip the person you are shooting at (if you can).

It makes it more deadly than trying to pull the trigger real fast with accuracy. Achievable with lots of training.

There is a reason Glock and Beretta have designed pistols that do this out of the factory for police and military.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's also a reason the police and military don't buy pistols like this, you can't hit what you're aiming at, and the gun will be empty in less than 2 seconds. Generally unsafe for all involved including the shooter.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, they probably liked the potential of a pocket machine gun but in practice saw that it was rarely practical.

There are some seriously compact machine pistols with deployable braces which are likely much better choices today.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All the money for fighting terrorists went to buying tanks and not IDENTIFYING TERRORISTS WITHIN THE TRIGGER HAPPY GUN PARTY.

The right cries so much about corruption and scream "follow the money" as their war chant but refuse to ever follow the money themselves or have excuses about how if there is such money, it must be business as usual and everything is fine. It must be nice to be so dumb as to not think about how the world works.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

They're not stupid their voters are.

They know exactly what they're doing and it's working perfectly for them

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Less concerned about pistol switches than Hellfire triggers for AR-15s.

It literally requires zero modification. It's a bent strip of metal. You could make your own in less than a minute if you knew the proper shape.

They clip around the trigger pretty much instantly and can be removed just as easily leaving zero trace.