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Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics (i.imgur.com)

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[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 80 points 9 months ago

This is correct in a sense. While the US has a decent amount of stand out technology, comparably good training, comparably well equipped soldiers, etc. The true power of the US military is the world wide infrastructure it has developed to get whatever force needed, to where ever force is needed, within a few hours to 3 days. So, yeah, the US military being able to deploy fast food chain restaurants pretty much anywhere in the world, is a demonstration of it's reach and resources, if an unconventional one.

[-] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago

Ice cream ships :D

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Yup. I took a class on military history and my professor said that what wins wars is not weapons but logistics.

[-] Hupf@feddit.de 16 points 9 months ago

Guns don't kill people, burgers kill people?

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 months ago

A gun that is loaded with bullets and wielded by a soldier who is well fed and equipped is pretty effective at killing people.

[-] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 9 months ago

a gun doesn't kill people, that shipment container of guns over there does

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

It fell on Jimmy last week, poor kid.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

Except interstellar wars. It’s all about weapons and finishing it in one strike for those.

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago

WWII had ice cream delivered to Allies on beachfronts. It was apparently very demoralizing to the Axis

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

It's one of my fav wwii stories, can't remember what rank the Japanese navy dude was but apparently the idea that Americans had an entire ship just for ice cream was a large factor in him calling to stand down

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 21 points 9 months ago

There was also a story of a German POW being served apple pie are being captured while not being served it by his own government for a while due to rationing.

[-] Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Please tell me this is real

[-] nuke@yah.lol 38 points 9 months ago

It's real. Here's a Burger King in Kandahar, Afghanistan. There was also a Pizza Hut and a Dairy Queen

[-] teft@startrek.website 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

100% real. We had a BK in iraq in 2003.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

But that is not what we see in the picture, seems more like a regular BK place?

[-] teft@startrek.website 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Here is the OPs photo description from Getty:

BAGRAM AIRBASE, AFGHANSITAN - MAY 19: A Burger King trailer is unloaded from a C-17 Globemaster III aircraft May 19, 2004 at Bagram Airbase, Afghanistan. The restaurant, which should be operational in 3-4 weeks, is an Army Air Force Exchange Service concessionaire. (Photo by Vincent James/U.S. Air Force via Getty Images)

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Holy moly, crazy. Thank you.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I seen it.

My fave was the Cinnabon they had in the green zone. Never got to eat there... But saw it up close!

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 27 points 9 months ago

You should see what the brits bring, they had a whole ass bakery at camp leatherneck in Afghanistan.

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

Morale is extremely important for keeping soldiers in check.

Many militaries learned this the hard way in WW1, where conditions were so bad some countries had to order officers to shoot soldiers that were ignoring orders or even organizing revolutions.

Giving a soldier a little slice of home, sometimes literally with slices of cake and pie, keeps them in line way more effectively than pointing guns at their backs.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That was mostly cuz they spent 2+ years sending them to die in futile frontal assaults. Even with great food eventually people will catch on to the fact they're dying for nothing and mutany

[-] DroneRights@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

conditions were so bad some countries had to order officers to shoot soldiers that were ignoring orders or even organizing revolutions.

They didn't have to. They chose to. They could have let the soldiers go home and not had a war. They could have just kept playing soccer after Christmas was over.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They did that in WW2 as well. I'll find an article about them.

83rd Mobile Field Bakery, Royal Army Services Corp.

https://wartimememoriesproject.com/ww2/allied/battalion.php?pid=2081

Skimmed a bit of the diary at the link: one part he's talking about setting up the bakery in a factory, next paragraph he's talking about how much he hates the Jerries (Germans) and nobody in his baking unit would take a prisoner, he's itching to slit one of their throats. He calls the Jerries "he."

[-] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 14 points 9 months ago

I ate off of one of those trucks while tdy in the middle east. They didn't serve any pork, so no bacon on any of the burgers. They still had some kind of option to replace it, and to this day I still don't know what the fuck I ate. Still better than MREs.

[-] nuke@yah.lol 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

Feels like something from the SCP Foundation.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Worked pizza for a Jordanian dude for a number of years, great dude, great food, but no pork in the store. The peps, bacon, and sausage were beef, the beef was beef (perhaps unsurprisingly), and the ham was actually some kind of turkey they transmogrified into ham but it was surprisingly not bad. Could it just have been beef bacon? They're pretty similar, tbh the difference bt beef and pork bacon is exactly what you'd think, the beef is just a little more cow-ey.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

Turkey bacon is decent in a pinch too. Especially if you like thin crispy bacon.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 12 points 9 months ago

Does it have a deep fryer that can flash fry a buffalo in 40 seconds?

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Nah, only the Navy has those.

[-] nuke@yah.lol 11 points 9 months ago

Based logistics

[-] Kaloi@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Base logistics

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

One of the best moments in Modern Warfare 2 (OG) is the defense of Burger Town. So we gave every base a Burger Town to defend!

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

RAMIREZ, DO EVERYTHING

[-] SteefLem@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Ah yes: “This war is sponsored by……”

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