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Rep. Derrick Van Orden (R-Wis.) is in hot water after he cursed out a group of teenage Senate pages in the Capitol rotunda early Thursday morning. According to a transcript written by a page …

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From the article:

“The history of the United States Capitol Rotunda, that during the Civil War it was used as a field hospital and countless Union soldiers died on that floor, and they died because they were fighting the Civil War to end slavery. And I think that place should be treated with a tremendous amount of respect for the dead,” he said.

From Wikipedia:

Van Orden participated in the January 6th "Stop the Steal" rally[6] and was present at the United States Capitol during the January 6 United States Capitol attack.[7][8]

So let me get this straight- sleeping in the rotunda, bad. Smearing shit on the rotunda wall, good.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

". . . . countless Union soldiers died on that floor, and they died because they were fighting the Civil War to end slavery. And I think that place should be treated with a tremendous amount of respect for the dead."

The revolutionary war reenactments at the battlefield near my house always have a pizza truck.

“If anyone had been laying a series of graves in Arlington National Cemetery, what do you think people would say?”

If I were a ghost and I saw some poor living person huddled up, taking a nap on my grave, my instinct would be to wish them well. They probably need the respite and I would be charmed to have provided that to the needy.

This offer extends to anyone looting/eating my corpse in whatever future civil war/societal collapse. It's fine by me, shit's hard. Live how you can

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, Union soldiers died in a shit ton of places and you can't just make them hallowed ground forever because of it. That's the whole point of Arlington.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh yeah, I think it was our 2nd or 3rd line that extended way out several miles from the actual memorial and that area is a bunch of chain stores.

The recorded scope of the actual battle is a little bit hazy, but (not a military buff) I hadn't realized how large the borders were known to be, since the park was already huge.

I think about it every time I pass the Zaxby's now. Someone lost everything at that Zaxby's.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] yip-bonk@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

“Wake the f‑‑‑ up you little s‑‑‑‑. … What the f‑‑‑ are you all doing? Get the f‑‑‑ out of here. You are defiling the space you [pieces of s‑‑‑],” Van Orden said, according to the account provided by the page.
“Who the f‑‑‑ are you?” Van Orden asked, to which one person said they were Senate pages. “I don’t give a f‑‑‑ who you are, get out.”
“You jackasses, get out,” he added.
The incident, which occurred just after midnight, outraged members of the upper chamber, with one calling the string of remarks “horrible.”
Van Orden did not dispute the exchange and defended his actions when asked by The Hill.

Classy. republiQans are so cool.

[–] kitsuneofinari@yiffit.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The real piece of shit is Van Orden himself. Anger issues and a bigot...

[–] sendingmath@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

he's one to talk about "defiling the space"...

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After watching Mitch McConnell being led around like a nursing home patient who might shit himself at any given moment, and then watching Democrats prop up Dianne Feinstein's lifeless corpse and pretend it's the one casting the votes, I think it's fair to say that a lot of people don't really give much of a damn about the Senate.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The senate is an authoritarian, classist, institution. People really should give less shits about them. Fewer shits to the point of abolishing it all together.

[–] giacomo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the "news" here? This guy is a dickhead?

[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say any time you can officially document a politician abusing a child, verbally or otherwise, it counts.

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not "news" in the sense that something extreme happened, but because these "pages" are usually the nephew of the Senator, or the Granddaughter of a supreme court justice, or the son of a CEO of a bank.

This is a public "Denunciation" of this dude, so the REAL people in charge don't bite them, when the families go after an "Apology"

[–] Pandantic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is an interesting angle I hadn’t considered…

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Just exposing one clown at a time. I am sure he broke some house rules tho too

[–] comedy@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bet this guy wouldn't talk shit like that to someone his own age

[–] hibsen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

He does, actually. Watch any of the hearings he sits on and you'll see him being a blustering bag of shit at anyone who has to be there, regardless of age. I think it might be the only thing he knows how to do, apart from threatening librarians and trying to take loaded guns onto an airplane.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Van Orden did not dispute the exchange and defended his actions when asked by The Hill.

“The history of the United States Capitol Rotunda, that during the Civil War it was used as a field hospital and countless Union soldiers died on that floor, and they died because they were fighting the Civil War to end slavery. And I think that place should be treated with a tremendous amount of respect for the dead,” he said.

"If anyone had been laying a series of graves in Arlington National Cemetery, what do you think people would say?”

Journalism is way to soft these days...

I don't know how no one asked him what he thought about 1/6

[–] zerkrazus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Born 1969, he might as well be a Boomer, cause he sure acts like one. The early Gen X cuspers, of which he is one, are basically just younger Boomers IMO. Or Xoomers if you prefer. Dude sounds like a giant POS and can GTFO.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Many of gen x flipped into full boomer karens now that they feel it their turn extract value.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I'm just about exactly as old. I know a lot of good people around my age, and older, and younger. I know a lot of horrible people around my age, and older, and younger.

Don't just write off older people based on their age, and don't give younger people a pass based on their age, either - just like you wouldn't judge people on the basis of gender, or sexuality, or skin color. People don't get to choose how old they are.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they're often worse or just as bad but in hiding. they're just boomers who "let" their wives work, basically.

the progenitors of the zombie feminism of women working jobs AND doing all the cleaning, cooking and childcare

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