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July 29 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday that an African initiative could be a basis for peace in Ukraine but that Ukrainian attacks made it hard to realise.

He was speaking at a press conference after meeting African leaders in St Petersburg on Friday and hearing their calls for Moscow to move ahead with their plan.

"There are provisions of this peace initiative that are being implemented," he said. "But there are things that are difficult or impossible to implement."

Reuters reported in June that African mediation in the conflict could begin with confidence-building measures followed by a cessation of hostilities agreement accompanied by negotiations between Russia and the West.

Putin said that one of the points in the initiative was a ceasefire. "But the Ukrainian army is on the offensive, they are attacking, they are implementing a large-scale strategic offensive operation... We cannot cease fire when we are under attack."

On the question of starting peace talks, he said, "We did not reject them... In order for this process to begin, there needs to be agreement on both sides."

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has rejected the idea of a ceasefire now that would leave Russia in control of nearly a fifth of his country and give its forces time to regroup after 17 grinding months of war.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin/Russia calls for a cease fire any time they need to reposition their troops. When they’ve moved them to their advantage, they call off the ceasefire and resume the unprovoked attacks.

Remember Chechnya… and Georgia.

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Hell, they didn't even stop fighting when Wagner was doing a zerg rush on Moscow.

If they can fight when the country is at the brink of civil war, then they will be just fine during peace talks.

[–] Transcendant@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 year ago

There's not much to talk about until Russia stops their invasion of Ukraine, imo

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course. He'd be willing to take Zelensky's unconditional surrender 🤣🤡

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

No mention of the conditions, which means they are unreasonable. For a peace to be reached, both sides must agree on a situation mutually preferable to war. Russia still thinks it can hold on or gain once western support dries up, but Ukraine doesn't think it can. So there is no option mutually preferable to war till Putin is convinced aid is lasting, or Ukraine is convinced that it's support is faltering.

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Putins russia is like the rapist who in during the process says: – Hey, stop fighting. I do not reject peace talks, but in order for them to begin there needs to be agreement on both sides of how I'm staying put in.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia won't even agree the basics of an agreement that needs to happen for talks to begin.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But they don't reject talks. Just means of getting them started and ignoring everything they don't like along the way. But they are not rejecting talks. Technically correct is the best correct.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Putin is looking rough in that photo.

Guessing he got another round of cosmetic surgery?

[–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Could be one of his decoys that he uses to show the world how brave he is.

[–] Jackolantern@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Putin must be under a ton of stress. He looks really unwell here.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)