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submitted 1 year ago by favrion@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

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[-] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 126 points 1 year ago

Move to a new, smaller, instance. You can still use lemmy.world as though it was still running at full speed. You can still post to lemmy.world or other federated communities and you experience won’t be so painful.

Lemmy.world is experiencing an influx of Redditors and with us good Redditors come our awful trolls. Growth, along with DDoS attacks have plagued the site since I began using it.

[-] CMahaff@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago

And if the thought of setting up another account annoys you, I've made a tool that will migrate your account settings, subscriptions, and blocks: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

Now that does require the source instance to be up long enough to download your profile, but after that you can upload to any instance you want and be running like nothing changed in like 2 minutes.

[-] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the beautiful tool!

[-] AzuleBlade@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed, and starred.

[-] niisyth@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago

Tbh, I kinda like that we have these growing pains. Helps folks leave out older expectations of monolithic profit-oriented social platforms. And actually put some money down to help host the specific niche community they really want to exist.

I'll probably eat these words later but, as of this moment, I stand by it.

[-] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is the fediverse's way of telling us to break our old habit of piling on a single site and to spread out.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Except...it's being DDOS'd, so no, it isn't.

If anything this is basically establishing to everyone out there that if you want to kill an instance or encourage people to move to a different one (with different admins who might have different..."styles"), just DDOS it and promote your alternative instance as a refuge.

I'm sticking with .world because the admins there are chill. Don't feel like rolling the dice on a new instance where some power mods probably set up shop.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

You do you, but I wouldn't say that lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, sopuli.xyz or reddthat.col are power mods

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Particularly sh.itjust.works. They're letting the community vote on instance rules and the Admin is really chill

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

A gaming instance would take a lot of load.

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[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish people would stop using this advice without some caveats. The instance you choose is also about the admins your choosing to have your account under.

I'll stay on Lemmy.world because I trust the admin there. Any time you jump to a new instance, you better hope it's run by levelheaded, fair-minded people.

[-] remkit@lemmy.kya.moe 19 points 1 year ago

You don't have to jump to tiny < 100 user instances though, any instance within the top 10 is a good alternative to lemmy.world. If everyone thinks the same as you do, then there would be no point in federation.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Any instance in the top 10 is not a “newer smaller instance.”

[-] remkit@lemmy.kya.moe 5 points 1 year ago

Y'know what, you're right, but in an ideal federated world, it is probably for the best if people branch out further than just the top 10 as well. The instance I'm on probably is not even within the top 50, but it's fast, performant, and has all my subscriptions. Not sure about the admins, but I also have alts on lemm.ee and sh.itjust.works in case this instance goes bust.

[-] favrion@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I am subscribed to nine others.

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah. There is little reason to sign up on the biggest server since you can see and interact with content from any of the servers.

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[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 year ago

For all the annoyance, a silver lining is that lemmy.world is testing lemmy at a relatively high scale lemmy doesn’t see anywhere else and so aiding in the development of the software and architectural guidelines for instance management.

[-] Atramentous@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Yes. These are growing pains. That’s a good thing.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 year ago

If you want a fast, stable, and we'll funded instance, try some of the porn ones.

[-] favrion@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Only if it's Furry porn.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

They're defederated with many of the instances though

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.film 5 points 1 year ago

They even have video uploading enabled.

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[-] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Honestly? That's great. It's stress-testing Lemmy and, to an extent, ActivityPub.

Growing pains. It's just gonna improve Lemmy in the long term.

If you don't like it, use another smaller instance like lemmy.zip or lemm.ee. You know, the entire point of decentralization.

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Suffering from success.

Don't worry though they'll figure it out. The early days of Reddit were pretty unstable. Definitely sucks for now but it'll get better

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Are you just going to make one of these every single time?

Ugh

"Ugh" what?

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[-] garpunkal@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago
[-] Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I have accounts on a few instances, and lemm.ee is the quickest and most stable of them all. I don't know what they're doing, but it's great.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Can't find the post right now but sunaurus said that the main difference is that lemm.ee is the only instance using a horizontal setup, that is, there's multiple lemmy servers running on multiple servers behind a load balancer, all sharing a database (postgres itself clusters very well). The code isn't actually made for that so it's all rather custom and possibly specific to his hoster.

Less technical: sunaurus happens to be a beast of a devop and prolific contributor to the lemmy codebase. As such lemm.ee quite often runs code that's ahead of the release schedule, addressing stuff that he stumbled across while wearing his sysop hat.

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[-] yoz@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Dude just move to a small, updated instance with good uptime. I joined aussie.zone and its never down plus feels so much snappier.

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[-] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net 12 points 1 year ago

Just in time for lemmy.fmhy.net to come back up

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[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s why I joined my local “area of my country” instance. I just need to subscribe to all my communities here and I’ll be good. The app I use (Memmy) let’s you easily switch between profiles on any instance too.

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[-] vanontom@geddit.social 10 points 1 year ago

I wanted to stay with World. But they are literally constantly having severe problems (errors, voting, comments). Gave them many chances. I'm sorry World, but I probably would abandon Lemmy if I had to stay, it's just not an enjoyable experience.

Maybe it's not even possible to keep a large (targeted) instance working with current limitations and tools? Hope they figure it out. I'm rooming with Stux at Geddit, he's cool. So many cats...

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Having glanced at the code and taken my own instance down a few times cleaning up a surprisingly small number of automated posts, it's definitely the combination of some design choices in the code and the scale of lemmy.world. Keeping an instance up that has so many posts and communities has been difficult on my instance, and I'm basically the only user. I can imagine with the scale and lemmy.world load and publicity, it's nearly impossible until some improvements to the data layer are made.

For one example, purging a community with 1k posts and 30k comments (I was messing with a bot) took my instance down for 2 hours with the postgres database pegged at a full core minimum. And then it took down my instance. And then I restarted the database but presumably this was done in a transaction so no progress had been made.

I'm personally impressed with the amount of uptime lemmy.world has managed. And I'm also impressed with lemmy overall, but it's pretty clear there has been some rapid growth that, as it usually does, exposed some of the limits of the design and requires some improvements for the current scale.

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[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.film 9 points 1 year ago
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[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Oh so that's why there seems to be less content in my feed than normal?

[-] om1k@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I moved to sopuli.xyz because of this. I can still subscribe to all the communities I like so no point in staying in an instance that's constantly down.

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[-] NapoleonBonaparty@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, pretty annoying. Probably update related but still…

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