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Can someone tell me the reason why these people don't want to leave Reddit? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14knc6t/got_r4d_for_pirating_someone_elses_john_oliver_so/

Pirates want to stay on Reddit? This is the last group I had expected to have such a reaction, but here we are. Yes, the mod could have worded it better, but these people actually want to stick around on Reddit.

I personally find Lemmy to be a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit for such subs. I wonder about the reasons why these people still don't want to move.

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[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Hey, they can stay on Reddit with their beloved memes, I don't really care.

[–] dustedhands@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not like everyone visiting /r/piracy was part of the community itself (which moved to greener pastures). Many visited the sub as part of casual browsing.

[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Addicted

[–] some_guy@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Real question: does it matter?

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because they are very naughty

[+] drdrago1337@lemmy.dbzer0.com -20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lemmy still has the same inherent drawbacks of Reddit, but now the mods have complete power with no admin oversight whatsoever.
The moderators of a community have no right to kill it. If people wish to leave for Lemmy, I welcome it. if the other sub died naturally, I'd migrate over here myself (the same way I migrated to Reddit gradually through dozens of forums dying naturally)

Forcefully trying to kill the sub serves no purpose other than to centralize piracy knowledge, benefit Reddits IPO by getting rid of a hated subreddit, and allow more mod censorship. Also, Lemmy isn't indexed by google, so you're fully reliant on the inbuilt search unlike Reddit. (which makes Lemmy less useful for finding specific content)

Lemmy is still in it's early stages. I'm a part of 1k+ communities on Reddit and fewer than half have a prescence on Lemmy or an equivalent.
Dearth of NSFW content. (I mean really, it's kinda sad. Even twitter has more regularly posted nsfw than Lemmy.)
UI and UX are garbage. I've had more 503s on Lemmy the past week than Reddit the past 8 years. The new reddit app looks & feels better than any available android app for Lemmy. (and honestly on desktop too)
Why 'move' ?

If the mods don't want to moderate the old sub, then pass the torch.

Considering piracy's focus on decentralization, y'all are oddly supportive of centralizing your content on a Lemmy instance hosted by one guy.

Which brings me to:

The person who hosts the Lemmy instance can edit the database directly just like Spez can with Reddit. You're trading centralized power around admins for centralized power around the server host. So essentially just downgrading to the old forum days.. (you know, the stuff Reddit replaced in large part.)

I'm sure this will get downvoted to hell, but these are a few reasons why the Reddit community shouldn't be killed.

[–] Nollij@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Most of what you said is valid and correct, but very little of it is a reason to stay on Reddit. Rather, those are deficiencies in Lemmy that should be addressed (and to be fair, most are in progress) in the code.

I do feel the need to point out that your first point is off the mark. In a way, due to federation, there are no admins. But in another, there are tons of them, with a team on each instance.

As for your second point, the very point of killing that sub (and similar actions on countless other subs) is to fight back against those singular admins of the first point. But at some point, these actions will stop organically. It could be on 7/1, it could be months from now. It could even be when there's a mutiny, or Reddit replaces the mods with scabs. But it will end, and a lot of people will already be gone permanently.

[–] DarkTides@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then go open up your own sub if you want a piracy sub on reddit that much. You think it's the name that makes a sub special? Could be /r/shitideas and if you made it focused on piracy it'd be a piracy sub. Acting like there's something stopping you from starting up your own. If anything it being /r/shitideas would make it easier to go under the radar and attract less attention from being shut down. Step up if you want it.

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