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[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Kbin, on the other hand, has too many issues.

No offense to Kbin’s developer Ernest, who is working hard, but Kbin is still in alpha stage, and it often has server errors (in fact, kbin.social is down right now, and it has been for the whole day), and the userbase and engagement are far behind Lemmy. There are also federation problems between Kbin and Lemmy sometimes. Kbin is also trying to be a more all-in-one product, with both microblogging and forums, and the users there like to have both, which is fine, but Reddit users are mostly forum users and they seem to prefer Lemmy more.

It was not fully down and this completely ignores the issues that Lemmy had when they updated to the next version a while back. Really unnecessary bashing.

But I realized later that this was a misunderstanding on my part, and that this is not an issue as long as the project is open source, with an open development, and as long as you avoid instances like lemmygrad.

Totally not suspicious, but at the minimum a bit ignorant on how open source software development typically goes. And it isn't just Lemmygrad, but even their allegedly more moderate main instance Lemmy.ml, which is really just more of the same as far as users and moderation issues go. More problematic is the fact though that you're still supporting the devs and their problematic views simply by supporting their software and its development by directly using it, and this won't change until a proper fork from actually decent people is going to become the main used Lemmy software.

And overall, no one won this, because the whole protest was a failure as way too many people just remained on Reddit.

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[–] NekoKamiGuru@ttrpg.network 6 points 10 months ago

The Fediverse feels a lot like the old Reddit from 10+ years ago , but I suspect that once it becomes mainstream the shills and bots will move in and ruin it like they ruined Reddit.

[–] viss3@feddit.it 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but still far from being a competitor

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Lemmy has 2 devs. Reddit has hundreds of employees, each individually getting paid 2-3x more than what Lemmy makes in donations every year.

The expectation that Lemmy is a competitor to Reddit is borderline insane

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

For the average user it may have it may not be their preferred option but it's certainly a competitor. Lemmy is pretty much a drop in replacement to the point that several third party Reddit apps at least for Android have simply modified their api calls to use lemmy rather than Reddit.

There's not quite as much content but it already appears to be enough to be sustainable which is the most important part. And you can bet that whenever Reddit next messes up there will be further migration.

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