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As senators work on a compromise deal to address border security and immigration, at least one Republican is suggesting politics is a key motivator for him.

"Let me tell you, I'm not willing to do too damn much right now to help a Democrat and to help Joe Biden's approval rating," Republican Rep. Troy Nehls of Texas told CNN this week. "I will not help the Democrats try to improve this man's dismal approval ratings. I'm not going to do it. Why would I?"

Nehls indicated he'd accept only a proposal similar to HR 2, a hardline immigration bill that got zero Democratic votes when it passed the House last year.

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 212 points 10 months ago (3 children)

“Party over country.” That’s their stance.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And yet people vote for them. They are just admitting they aren't interested in helping people and the country and they still get voted for.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For the people that vote for them, that's a highlight...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Maybe in their limited thinking catered by Fox News, but a lot of them are working class and they're the ones getting hurt the most by Republicans. They don't even know it.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

If it owns the libs, then it's good. If they suffer any consequences, it's the libs fault for making Republicans do it. It's simple circular logic, but you'll find it's quite unbreakable.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Our great challenge has been showing this to them, and it remains incredibly difficult. To highlight how much of a problem it is, you still have white collar knowledge workers who think that they'll have to pay more money in taxes if they get a raise vs before. They don't understand tax brackets.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 10 points 10 months ago

Has been since Nixon.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Unhung traitors kill republics.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shouldn't it be "unhanged"?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Tbf, I’ve also heard they have tiny penises.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Fitting that one of their leaders is a weak Johnson.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

I like this quote

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You mean to tell me that Republicans are operating in bad faith, and that Democrats fell for it?

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would say called them out on it but potato tomato.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

simply by going forward and having yahoos like him admit they don't actually want to solve the problem. Calling out or calling a bluff is just going ahead with the thing.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not what he said and not what anyone sympathetic to his dumbass viewpoint is going to hear. He said the House solved "the problem" back when they passed HR2, that if Senate Democrats actually wanted to solve "the problem" they would just pass that, and that the bipartisan deal moderate Dems are seeking is only for the purposes of improving Biden's poll numbers, which is why he has no interest in passing it.

You and I know HR1 is a psychotic pile of xenophobic trash that should never get passed, but the fact that Dems are making a big show out of working with the political party that produced it muddies the waters for anyone that doesn't follow politics closely. The fact that they've gotten Democratic lawmakers to concede that "securing the border" is a problem (as opposed to staying focused on how our immigration system can't process people in a timely manner and our social care systems are all too underfunded to deal with climate refugees) has been a massive win for them (makes it very easy for them to just say "securing the border" is "the (only) problem"), as is the fact that we're talking about the border at all right now instead of Ukraine aid.

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[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Democrats fell for what exactly, doing their job in a lame duck government so people can see what Republicans are really about yet still somehow being blamed by fake Democrats?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

I never thought I would, but I kinda miss the time when Republicans would lie about their motivations for being awful.

This whole "mask off but still no consequences" bullshit is even more frustrating than when everyone knew but most people refused to acknowledge it 😮‍💨

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 45 points 10 months ago

If it improves the President's approval rating, doesn't that suggest that it's something Americans need or want?

"[...] I'm not going to do it. Why would I?"

Indeed. Why help the American people, Congressman?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

i mean that's pretty much the same story about immigration for the last 40 years and it's why nothing has gotten done. they'd rather use immigrants as wedge issues then do something about the problem.

[–] CodeName@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago

They also like to use them as cheap labor. The American system can't function without them. But hush, hush, we don't like to talk about that part.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"We will not do the things our constituents ask unless we get all of the credit."

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

It is high time we treat the republican traitor swine with the same contempt that they show the American people.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If it's such a big deal, how come when Trump was in the White House and they held both chambers of Congress (~2017–2019), why didn't they solve the issue then?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They were busy with healthcare and infrastructure, obviously.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

"healthcare" i.e. repealing the Affordable Care Act and replacing it with 'Thoughts and Prayers'.

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (6 children)

these people need to be removed from office. you're there to help your constituents. period.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This is standard, decades-long GOP mantra, championed by Mitch McConnell. It's also quite effective. Give a man a boogeyman to blame for all of his problems, and he'll follow you anywhere.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's worse than that now. Democrats rolled their eyes, started setting up a deal to address their boogeyman, and now there's Republicans saying they refuse because it might help the other side.

The GOP has nothing useful to say or do.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  1. Enact policies that create pain in your own supporters.

  2. Create an "enemy."

  3. Blame the pain on the "enemies."

  4. Present themselves as strongmen who can defeat the "enemies."

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They're going to blame a government shut down, due to their inability to govern, on the "border crisis".

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

So, it’s not about what’s best for America you say? Gotcha.

[–] LoamImprovement@ttrpg.network 13 points 10 months ago

Oops, said the quiet part out loud again.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

Plus Russians convinced the GOP to leave Ukraine to them

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Benefits for me but not for thee.

[–] Glitch777@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What the hell lol it probally would hurt Biden but it will hurt the country and also the gop will just hurt themselves too God I hate the two party system

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


As senators work on a compromise deal to address border security and immigration, at least one Republican is suggesting politics is a key motivator for him.

"Let me tell you, I'm not willing to do too damn much right now to help a Democrat and to help Joe Biden's approval rating," Republican Rep.

Nehls indicated he'd accept only a proposal similar to HR 2, a hardline immigration bill that got zero Democratic votes when it passed the House last year.

"Chuck Schumer has had HR 2 on his desk since July," Nehls said, referring to the Senate majority leader.

HR 2, known as the Secure the Border Act of 2023, would entail a broader rewrite of the country's immigration laws, including curtailing migrants' ability to seek asylum in the US and forcing the continued construction of a wall on the border.

Republicans have insisted that border security be addressed before any further aid can be provided to Ukraine and Israel.


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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Stupid donkey gets to stay on the farm. Pathetic.

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