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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 109 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

The more you know! doo doo doo... doo!🌈⭐

[–] kometes@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Ugh. Where did 660 feet come from? Where did 66 feet come from? A line of potatoes (linear) to measure an acre (area)? A strip of land 43,560 x 1 ft is an acre requiring 87k+ potatoes.

Also, 18 homes wont fit on an acre.

This graphic is fucking awful.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

An acre is not just a unit of area measurement but has a traditional shape or aspect ratio per acre, based on the land plots it was used for.

1 acre is traditionally 60 ft x 660 ft, also known as 1 chain by 1 furlong.

It's similar to if you said you could lay X potatoes across a football field. Yes a football field is an area but it also has a defined length.

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[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

660 feet is a furlong, which comes from one furrow length. It’s the distance two oxen can pull a plow (creating a furrow), without stopping to rest. Then the oxen and person standing atop the plow could have a little rest before turning around to plow the next furrow. Not sure how many furrows but if you repeat this process all day, you’ll have plowed an acre. Potatoes did not exist to farmers when this land measurement was in use. But 66 x 660 is the original definition of an acre, and the only reasonable explanation for why we have 43,560

In California we measure water in Acre Feet. I guess if you know how many acres you have, and how many inches of water your crops need, I guess you’ll know how many acre feet you need.

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[–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

It is a chain (66ft) and 10 chains 660ft. They are historically important units for land surveying (and relevant today because of that). The measurement is nonsense, but the graph makes sense because an acre can be defined as 1 chain by 10 chains or 66ftx660ft=4356sqft

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These numbers all come from people who preferred 12 and 60 as their working base numbers, not 10. A lot of it becomes really elegant once you understand that.

[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Did they use duodecimal or sexagesimal numeral systems?

66 feet does not match that, also its 1 chain * 10 chains.

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[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago (5 children)

JFC not a single magnitude in metric...

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

What? You don't naturally measure things in potatoes per football field?

[–] numberfour002@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

JFC not a single magnitude in metric…

Jentucky Fried Chicken?

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I just stole it from a place, sorry.

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[–] S_204@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The average American home is 2400 sqft?

I live in a home that size.... any time someone comes over they mention how big the house is. It feels huge, we moved from 985 sqft and a year later it still feels enormous. To think this is the average is a mind fuck LoL.

Where's that stat from? Is that legit?

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Homes here tend to be about that size unless they're older than about 1980. We also have a lot of absolutely massive mansions built out in the middle of absolutely nowhere that'll drive that number up quite a bit. If you're willing to drive 30 minutes to the grocery, you can get a 5000+sqft house for well under $500k. I have a buddy who just bought a 5200sqft place on 8 acres for about $450k. If you really want to live somewhere undesirable like the place my parents moved to a few years ago, their whole subdivision has a few dozen houses all over 7000sqft, and they sold for about $400k

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[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile, Europeans use hectares. Or a hundred ares. An are is 100 square metres, so a hectare is 100*100 or 10000 square metres or 1/100 of a square kilometer.

[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Thanks I hate it

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Guys, I actually came here to learn something!

[–] monotremata@kbin.social 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

CADmonkey, DemBoSain, and HjFun are correct in this case. 43,560 sq. ft., or 4046.86 sq. meters.

Coffeebiscuit presumably dropped a zero accidentally.

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] doingless@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I live in a neighborhood that is all half acre lots. So an acre is two properties on my street. Easy!

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have a 3/4 acre lot. So it's like my yard and the part of my neighbor's yard I can see. Easy

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[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 36 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The acre was defined officially as being 1 furlong (40 poles = 660 feet) in length, and 4 poles (66 feet) in breadth.

From the source of the problem.

Whip out your furlongs and poles. Bring some rods and chains, just in case.

[–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yea but if it's cold my pole is shorter

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[–] HjFUN@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I remember it just as 1x10 chains which is still esoteric and just to check the math on the conversion factor of 1 acre = 43,560 sq. ft.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

What the fuck's a furlong???

edit: Google says it's 1/8 of a mile... 201.17m for my SI people.

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[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Grab a couple of oxen and a plough, and plough all day long. The amount you've done is about an acre

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is it called that because you'd be all acky after all that hard work? An ache'er?

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[–] HansSlonzok@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

but what if my couple of oxen is faster than yours?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can visualize an acre really well.where I grew up, houses were standard on 1/4 acre blocks so it was just my house and my 3 neighbours houses.

Hectares though, these are the devils unit of area and Ill have no part in them!

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I thought acre was English for the Spanish word "hectΓ‘rea". I guess I was wrong. Anyways, my mind always goes blank when people use these units. I can only understand once I hear squared meters or kilometers.

Edit: dude, an hectare is just 10k squared meters. Chef's kiss. Meanwhile an acre is 4 neighboring houses from that Lemmy's user, or 5000 potatoes spread on a field.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

Yknow how hard it is to think in your second language? It's the same here. I know metric how metric works perfectly well, but I convert to imperial to think, and then convert the answer back to metric for whatever person needed it in metric. I literally have all the conversions memorized but I just can't think in metric. I say this because of the way you presented 10k square meters. Had to convert to miles to visualize and then was like "oh, a 16th of a mile squared"

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[–] wieson@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A Hectare is just 100m X 100m. So about two football pitches next to each other.

(A metre is about the same as a yard).

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's an imperial unit based on foot, so there's why. (4840 square feet, wtf)

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Close, it's 4840 square yards not square feet,.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 7 points 10 months ago

dict.cc lied to me!

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[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago (8 children)

If American, use sports related analogies. About 2/3 of a football field.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Actually it's pretty much exactly the main play area of a football field, minus 5 yards on either side, or 10 yards on one side(acre in red, association football field in blue): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AAcre_superimposed_over_football_fields.svg

The unit apparently represents the approximate area of land that one person with a team of oxen could plow in a single day.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It's 4046m2 or 63m per side.

A bit bigger than 1/2 standard football pitch, (soccer field) - 7120m2 A bit smaller than American football field - 5350m2

I think the parking lot is pretty accurate when you think of a big parking, for example at IKEA.

[–] doingless@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The IKEA parking lots near me are multiple acres.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (5 children)

That was a bad example, IKEA parking lots are different sizes. Sorry about that.

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[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I'm pretty sure an acre was originally defined as the area of land that a medieval peasant could plow in one day.

There. I'm glad that's all cleared up.

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[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You never heard the term "back 40"? 160 acres is a quarter section. A section is a mile by a mile, 640 acres. 1/640 of a square mile. Roughly 8 feet wide and a mile long.

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Uhhh yeah, thanks. That really helped

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Sigh. 2.15 metres by 1.6 kilometers.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

43,560 square feet = one acre.

The square root of 43,560 is 208.71 feet

208.71 feet/ 2.5 feet per step for men = 84 steps.

So walk 84 steps then turn a right angle and walk another 84. One acre is the area contained in that square.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

The problem with "1% of the forest where Winnie the Poo lived" is that a) nobody really knows how large that forest actually is, and b) that the real forest of those stories is actually called "1000 acre wood".

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The chores!

The stores!

Fresh air!

Times Square!

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

It's equal to 4,840 square yards, or 4,046 square meters.

[–] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's about holds my hands up this wide by holds my hands a little further apart this long, if you picture that being in yards.

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