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[–] SignullGone@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Either the U.S. government has mounted an extraordinary, decades-long coverup of UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering activities, or elements of the defense and intelligence establishment are engaging in a staggeringly brazen psychological disinformation campaign.

This sentiment echoes my own thoughts. In my opinion, either of these scenarios should be the most significant news right now.

[–] velvetinetouch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scenario 2 would be significant but imo not the most significant news given that defence and intelligence communities have continually engaged the public with brazen psychological disinformation campaigns throughout recent history.. this would be a particularly elaborate example of their regular shenanigans

[–] SignullGone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I concur with you that the disinformation is part of how our government operates, and in and of itself, that's not necessarily newsworthy. However, I would argue that scenario 2 could be considered newsworthy due to its extensive reach. If this scenario were true, it would mean that the government successfully convinced the United States Congress to such an extent that the House is holding both private and public hearings, and the Senate is enacting legislation (the UAP amendment). In my personal view, this would indeed be newsworthy.

[–] iquanyin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

absolutely.

[–] artifice@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

This is exactly my line of thinking. If this really is all a psyop, then that has great implications for their abilities at large.

[–] Sagethefolxhero@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for scrounging for all this info yo, im literally on the edge of my seat whens this gonna drop?

[–] SignullGone@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No problem.

whens this gonna drop?

I hope you have the patience of a Tibetan Monk.

[–] bquintb@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"probably in a couple more weeks!"

-me (when I first got into UFOlogy in 1997)

[–] SignullGone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know it's been said before, but it really does feel different this time around.

*Knock on wood

[–] atocci@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SignullGone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Everything that has transpired since the 2017 New York Times article feels like a small snowball that started rolling at the top of a mountain. All the events from Lue Elizondo's departure from AATIP and the New York Times article to where we are today feel unprecedented.

What stands out most to me is the political unity. In a time marked by deep political division, where Republicans and Democrats often fail to accomplish much due to their attempts to stonewall each other, they are united on this one issue. UAPs seem to be the only topic that isn't polarizing. We have a Republican-controlled house and a Democrat-controlled senate, both seemingly wanting the same thing.

I don't think we've ever had this many public officials, particularly those who have received classified briefings, go on record stating their belief that UAPs are not man-made. Also, consider the UAP amendment to the 2023 NDAA sponsored by Senator Schumer. We now have legislation that explicitly mandates the declassification and disclosure of overclassified UAP material. This amendment also asserts eminent domain over non-human technology and biological samples, leaving little room for other interpretations.

So, while the general public doesn't really have any definitive proof and we are left to speculate, I believe that the legislation and actions of our elected officials are quite telling. Several prominent figures who have been in this field for a long time share a similar sentiment. Regardless of what UAPs might or might not be, Congress is taking the issue very seriously, which is unprecedented.