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The Wall Street Journal recently published a report about 155-mm shells and their production in the USA (www.wsj.com)
submitted 10 months ago by yogthos@lemmygrad.ml to c/ukraine_war_news@lemmygrad.ml
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They give some different numbers that are very indicative.

  • US supplied Ukraine with more than 2 million 155-mm shells in the past two years
  • The price of shells in US went from $1,200 to $8,400
  • From October to December inclusive, US supplied Israel with 57 thousand 155-mm shells
  • US produced 14 thousand shells per month in 2022, and they want to increase it to 80 thousand by 2025
  • Today, it comes out to 28 thousand a month
  • Americans themselves, Taiwan, Ukraine, and Israel all need shells.
  • Production volumes in Europe are not named, but it is indicated that they are significantly less than the US
  • Russia fires 10,000-30,000 shells per day
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[–] Catyote@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago (7 children)

How could it cost over $1000 to make a single shell? That's absurd. Are they fucking handcrafted?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Brought to you by the same people who spend $640 on a toilet seat. I absolutely love how people think there's no corruption in US.

[–] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not corruption, it's profit!

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

That's right, as long as you make it legal it's just a wholesome business opportunity.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 10 months ago

how much does a Russian shell cost?

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

Real ones know this is because of democratic processes and strict adherence to engineering quality and safety

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Handcrafted and sold on mEtsy. It's like Etsy but for the military. Everything above $1000 is for the ribbon and the box.

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Military contracts make you pay more for a car than you should.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

GDP go up!

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago

probably because they're packing all kinds of shit into each one... look at these excaliburs -> https://www.militarytoday.com/artillery/m982_excalibur.htm

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

@mozz@mbin.grits.dev Here's some of that data you were looking for. US producing as many shells per month as Russia fires per day.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-01-23/nato-signs-1-1-billion-euro-contract-for-155mm-artillery-ammunition

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I love how all they managed to do was to quadruple the price of shells. It's kind of hilarious that people running capitalist countries don't actually understand how capitalist economics work. They have a scarce commodity and they infused the market with a bunch of money, end result:

In October, NATO’s senior military officer, Adm. Rob Bauer, said that the price for one 155mm shell had risen from 2,000 euros ($2,171) at the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion to 8,000 euros ($8,489.60).