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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 152 points 9 months ago

Yeah, because it couldn't possibly be that Americans are opposed to genocide.

For fuck's sake, Pelosi. Witch hunts are supposed to be a Republican thing.

[-] Baines@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

wouldn’t be the first time Russia has done something like this, that said, how about we stop supporting genocide and it won’t matter

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

While it's all certainly Americans, and we don't like genocides, she is correct in assuming that Putin wants Trump to win, and this would be an effective way to further that goal.

Don't forget Putin was KGB.

I imagine it's more through social media manipulation and misinformation than FSB funding, I suppose I could be wrong. By way of example, though, how many times have you heard that white phosphorous is banned, even though that's not exactly true?

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

FSB is using social media among other things. Active Measures is one of primary ways how they operated and they adapted it well to the Internet age.

Have you thought how come that antivaxx people also have very pro Russia anti EU, anti UN anti NATO views?

Covid was a great catalyst in spreading disinformation.

Same thing with far right people in US and Europe, how come their views are mostly pro Russia and how come they greatly overlap with antivaxx?

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[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 146 points 9 months ago

Imagine how out-of-touch you have to be to represent San Francisco and not realize sincere antiwar protesters exist.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 43 points 9 months ago

Here is my completely nonpartisan hot take. We should pass a constitutional amendment that ties the maximum age to hold public office (including judges) to the Social Security "Normal Retirement Age" at the time of passing. That is currently 67 years old. You can do whatever you want past 67, but you can't hold public office.

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago

Do you want them to make the retirements age 90? I’d rather not give those assholes a perverse incentive to reduce benefits.

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[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 73 points 9 months ago

Sure, but lets also investigate the House for financial ties to billionaires.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 25 points 9 months ago

...and Russia, probably.

And investigate both sides - Russia will support both extremes in any issue that causes unrest in Western democracies. So investigating only one side is a useful propaganda tool but kind of misses the mark.

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[-] Muyal@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Vietnam war all over

"Foreign agents are brainwashing our youth to be against the war"

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 54 points 9 months ago

"Hey guys, we need a surefire way to make our base stay home instead of vote when we have a literal fascist running who will end the Republic if he's allowed to win!"

Nancy: "Say no more fam, I got this."

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago

Man, these fuckers really fucking hate their base.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 40 points 9 months ago
[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 43 points 9 months ago

She’s been woefully out of touch on a lot of things for at least a decade at this point

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

We've gotten to the point that America is like one of those sci-fi dystopia movies where the council of elders rules the nation, kept alive artificially while the people starve.

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[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

You guys are getting paid!?

[-] ButtermilkBiscuit@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Turns out you don't need to get paid to support Palestinians, you just need to not be a huge piece of shit!

Wild I know.

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[-] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

Anything to not have to stop a genocide.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Wish I was getting paid to support Palestine.

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[-] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 30 points 9 months ago

This cunt needs to go the fuck away.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

What an utter bitch. Your finances are the ones that should be investigated.

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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 29 points 9 months ago

Shouldn't we instead be investigating the politicians currently in office that we have a really good reason to believe have a monetary tie to Russia and have a mountain of evidence of being coerced or controlled by them due to said politicians' past actions (going to a secret meeting to Moscow on July 4th, ect)?

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago

Dividing the party sounds like a Russian ploy. Can we investigate her first?

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[-] jimbo@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Let's concede that the people organizing protests are receiving money from Russia. Is that actually a criminal matter? Apparently Trump's campaign working with Russia wasn't.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Pelosi is just saying that opposition to genocide means you must be Russian, which is what I keep hearing from pro-genocide centrist Democrats on lemmy.

I don't get why those same centrists are turning on her.

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[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 19 points 9 months ago

Those stupid fucks really want to lose the election

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 9 months ago

Nearly every Republican will vote for Trump. Meanwhile, the Democrats are notoriously fickle already, and have to convince enough independents to vote for them, and they're doing everything in their power to alienate people in both camps.

Typical establishment hubris. The other side supports fascism, so we dare you not to vote for us, or just the assumption that enough people support them out of the gate to win (like Hillary Clinton). And we are fucked by the two party system again.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 9 months ago

"Eat the 1%" isn't a strong enough punishment for this kind of statement

[-] Jomega@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago
[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Not that I think she has ties to Russia, but really the FBI needs to be investigating members of Congress for ties to Russia.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

If the cons want to understand (ah, who am I kidding, they don't want to understand anything) why many of us in the reality-based community chuckle about the idea of Pelosi even being half the liberal they seem to think she is...they might take a closer look here.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago

Can they also investigate her insider trading?

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I need someone to ely5 how to get to this conclusion.

"For them to call for a ceasefire is Mr. Putin's message. Make no mistake. This is directly connected to what he would like to see”

How? What does he gain from it?

I bet he loves how she just added fuel to more devision.

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[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

“Disinformation” has become to the left, what “fake news” is to the right - a cudgel to deflect dissent or crush differing options as false or astroturfed, and therefore not even worth discussion to dismiss

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago

It's cute that you think Pelosi is "left-wing". Cute, but sad.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

She’s not (by global nor US standards) but she did run the ‘left wing’ party in Congress for 20 years. So they certainly think she is.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Shouldn't we also investigate pro-Israel defenders for Financial Ties to Defense Contractors?

[-] Thormjolnir@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

As a liberal, peolsi is sham lol anyone not pro Palestine is just evil

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[-] Foni@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

So this November Americans will be able to choose between literally a Nazi and someone who strongly supports genocide and treats anyone who doesn't support it as a traitor.

Good luck with that

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