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Adobe casts doubt on claim ‘automation by Photoshop’ was to blame as network apologises for image shown during bulletin

The Victorian upper house MP Georgie Purcell has lashed Nine News in Melbourne for using an image edited to make her breasts look bigger and expose her midriff, which the network blamed on “automation by Photoshop”.

But Adobe has cast doubt on Nine News’s claim about its software, after the network broadcast the image during Monday night’s bulletin.

The program’s news director, Hugh Nailon, apologised to the upper house Animal Justice Party MP on Tuesday for the “graphic error”, and blamed “automation by Photoshop”.

“Our graphics department sourced an online image of Georgie to use in our story on duck hunting. As is common practice, the image was resized to fit our specs,” he said.

“During that process, the automation by Photoshop created an image that was not consistent with the original. This did not meet the high editorial standards we have and for that we apologise to Ms Purcell unreservedly.”

But in a statement on Tuesday afternoon, a spokesperson for Adobe said use of its generative AI features would have required “human intervention”.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Oh yeah. Totally automated. I forgot Adobe had a button you can click that made womens boobs bigger.

[–] axellenium@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hahaha and here I am trying to think what was the prompt used “make them bewbs bigger” 😂

It's the "Boobinator 9000." It's enabled by default in all Adobe software. You have to go into settings and toggle it off.

Adobe? No.

Some mod for video game girls? Yes.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This is the tool they're blaming

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/generative-expand.html

Which absolutely could do this.

Edit: to clarify, you can use this tool to generate clothes. That's what they did, starting at the bottom of her bust. Look at the differences in the fabric. It's very clear where the generation starts.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I don't think so, generative expand does not mean "make parts of the image bigger", all it does is create content around a selection, the link you provided explains it :

Sometimes the canvas you’re working with just isn’t the right size — you need space to add text or want to transform a landscape into a portrait. With the Crop tool and Generative Expand, powered by Adobe Firefly, you can seamlessly resize your image to fit any need.

Magically add more background. Once you’ve gotten the crop just right, click Generate to immediately fill the empty space with newly generated high-quality content that naturally blends with the existing image. Go from a few leaves to a whole jungle in just a few taps.

[–] Sarsaparilla@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

So it could've created the mid-drift, maybe, but not enlarge her breasts.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Everything below the bottom quarter of her bust is generated. I don't know why they did that, but it's pretty clear looking at the fabric which parts were made up by ai.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

For some reason I'm reminded of the LGR Blerb video about Photoshop's Neural Filters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq8DgpgtSQQ

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 31 points 9 months ago

The "AI" or "Photoshop did it" excuse is the exact same as "I WAS HACKED".

It's a generic bullshit excuse when people are caught doing or saying something stupid.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Regna@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

The tool that “curses” teenagers with extreme biceps or boobs while simultaneously warping door frames and trees around them.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Funny, and TIL you can make inline photo comments on Lemmy!

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 9 points 9 months ago

If only Adobe implemented some way to verify how images had been modified… https://c2pa.org/

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a known problem with ai image resizing that automagically de-pixelates images. They add details not in the original based on their training data. Do you think that the training data may have included women with large breasts and exposed midriffs? It seems plausible. Still a bad editor not to catch that immediately.

AI is not neutral. It only amplifies our society's existing biases. Garbage in, garbage out and we have a lot of garbage culture.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Photoshop doesn't do that when you resize images. I think if this was indeed a mistake, they ran it through something like Midjourney which does go off script sometimes.

More than likely they did this intentionally to be sexier or something. Typical trashy news behavior.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

According to another comment, Photoshop has a feature called Generative-Expand, which uses AI to fill in the area around a cropped section. So they probably cropped a portrait shot of her from another photo and then used that to fill in the rest of her figure. Basically the same issue, but it's actually Photoshop that went off script, if it was indeed a mistake.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

That wouldn't explain it giving her larger breasts as that part of the image wouldn't have been cropped out. I use Photoshop all the time and generative expand doesn't just go rogue on objects inside the crop like this.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I don't have PS, but I'm surprised that they don't have an AI unblur/depixelate tool which necessarily adds new details. I wonder if anyone here can recreate these conditions?

In either case, someone saw and approved the photo, so whether they are blaming Photoshop® or "photoshopping" it doesn't matter. Humans are still responsible for the things that humans do with the tools they use.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Hope shes takes Nine to town. Piss arse excuse for journalists they are.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The entittification continues.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

That word used to have a specific meaning. Now it's just "I don't like this."

[–] seiryth@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I don't get why they even bothered. Shes a babe anyway, after an excellent politician.

[–] infernalaudit@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

It looks like the hunter is also trying to shoot down a quadcopter and an F-18 in the background.