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Translation: “shut up, be a good little bootlicker, and we might let you keep working for us for free.”
Fuuuuuuuck those people.
The advertising and crypto spam bots are ready. Is spez?
Yep. I got one of these messages last weekend. So what did I do? I created a new replacement community here and pinned a post to the re-openned subreddit encouraging people to migrate.
But I created it over a decade ago, grew it myself from nothing. I'm not giving up mod status
In plain English:
"You are no longer allowed to provide us free labour."
Wake up mods!! You are working for Spez for free.
I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit removes the ability for subreddits to go private.
Well reddit can unmoderate deez nuts
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Change rules to EULA levels of obnoxious detail
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Perma-ban every infraction, no matter how minor.
Mods can still make their subs go dark... one user at a time, lol.
Set subreddit designation to NSFW, then unleash waves of bots running AI hentai generators, ideally set to ingest the output of same.
There's no way this is gonna end badly! /s
So are they going to hire people to mod all those subs?
So when they said they respect users right to protest what they actually meant was that they dont. got it.
There was some discussion in /r/modcoord on how mods could actually sue Reddit for free labour. I'm not sure how viable it is, but at least it seems to me like there's some ground to stand on.
There is also this part "Under FLSA regulations, an individual cannot volunteer services to a private, for-profit company."
Interesting read. Thanks for sharing that!
Seems like Spaz may have crossed the line but it’ll take someone with deep pockets to take on Condé Nast publishing to find out.
As long as you protest in a way that is ineffective, zero impact to Reddit, and makes good ol' Spez feel special, you can protest all you want I guess?
At least we now know that Reddit cares 0% for their users. Glad I migrated over.
Didn't they make this threat already once? Is this like that parenting thing where you keep shifting the deadline but acting like there'll be big consequences?
They also likely cannot do it. While they were sending pms to mods they completely failed at targetting private and restricted subreddits that aren't part of the protest, including ones that have been privated or restricted way before this month. And people saying there will always be people to replace the mods forgot how not-smooth that is going to go. Besides, the more Reddit antagonise its user base the more unstable it looks. It seems that despite the traffic returning to normal, many ads still haven't returned.
So is kbin kinda the same as Lemmy, then?
kbin is to lemmy what gmail is to hotmail
different software, but they talk to each other. they have slightly different features and UI, but they accomplish a pretty similar goal
yes, they post to each other's sites
Nice, still trying to wrap my head around the separate instances. If they were truly federated, wouldn't they all tie into each other or am I missing something?
Yup. I’m from kbin.
So am I...
...and I am also on lemmy.world! Wheee!
They do.
https://lemmy.world/post/828058?scrollToComments=true
This is the lemmy world link. you can see kbin users comments there.
They don't tie into each other in the sense that they share login credentials or anything like that. But they do send messages - posts, comments, favourites, etc. - to each other, if those messages are requested, creating a network of synchronizing content mirrors.
I think the best analogy is email. Email is built around standards, and it doesn't matter if you use outlook or gmail. That's similar to the fediverse (the standard) and knime/lemmy (the email providers in the analogy).
The thread you are commenting on is on a lemmy instance, lemmy.world, submitted by a user registered on that instance.
You and I are both users registered on kbin.social.
We can all see each other's submissions, submit content on communities, comment on them, etc.
If you are registered on a kbin instance, you'll be using the kbin Web UI to view the same content. That's what differs.
Also remember that with the cross-instance propagation within the federated servers you can never really delete your post(s). (At least that’s how it was explained to me…)
When you delete a post, your home instance sends a federated deletion command. If every server is running lemmy/kbin as-is, then your post will be completely gone. But anyone could modify their instance to not delete posts.
I think if you want GDPR style deletion, you would have to contact each instance admin individually.
At this point I feel about the mods like I do people in abusive relationships. It‘s sad, but you can‘t stay in this relationship and expect to be treated well. You need to leave it, there is shelters available and I can tell you about that, but if you refuse to see how this is wrong and stay willingly, then there is nothing I can do.
I guess my subreddit is too tiny and little-used for them to take notice of.
I haven't seen it mentioned, so I'm guessing it's not the case (and I've never been a mod on Reddit so I have no idea how things work behind the scenes) - but is there anything preventing mods from just...nuking the entire subreddit? Deleting it? I mean I know Reddit could probably "un-delete" it but still, all mods of those private communities should just go full scorched earth and just nuke the subreddit rather than hand it over/have it taken away (again if that's an option. If not, just ignore).