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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/9373065

You wouldn't download a chicken tender.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Of course not. How will a multi-million dollar corporation be able to host a simple website on their own without ad revenue? Think of corporations!

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 56 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's not ad revenue. If you're on a site to buy something, and you see an ad and click away from the site where you can buy the thing, someone's fucked up terribly; there's no way the ad revenue was worth the lost potential lost chicken sandwich.

They're irritated because your ad blocker is preventing third-party tracking devices from linking your chicken purchase back to a wider consumer profile of you from other ad activity on the internet.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Agreed a paid conversion is always much more profitable than the aggregate ad rev/tracking benefit per thousand.

It’s bizarre to produce this message on a product site designed to sell direct.

[–] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

linking your chicken purchase back to a wider consumer profile of you from other ad activity on the internet.

Based on the time spent on KFC.com, the lingering cursor sweeps over the images of chicken, and the occasional clicks to purchase but failure to put payment information, we have determined that user mozz is a fox.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 9 months ago

I once went to a pretty sad zoo, which had placed a lion enclosure directly across the person-walkway from the enclosure for a large bird. It was clear that the lion spent a significant part of its life looking across the walkway and wishing it could eat the bird.

[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"The only secret here is our secret blend" dude, that hasn't been a secret for a while now

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah wtf are they saying exactly?

That you, the customer, shouldn't have any secrets?

The general feeling of the words gives the impression that they have nothing to hide (except their spice blend that the good ol colonel cooked up.)

Scrutinize it for a secons and it's a pretty fucked up thing to tell your customer.

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

well, if you eat that shit the ads and tracking on their site should be the least of your worries

[–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Lol let people enjoy things

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I honestly never encounter this? It's so rare for any website to flag me as using and ad blocker. I use Firefox and ublock origin which I assume to be pretty standard

[–] manny_stillwagon@mander.xyz 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hello there, sounds like you're experiencing survivorship bias.

Its rare for you to see this, sure. Same for everyone else. But people aren't here to post screenshots of "look at this website where I didn't get flagged for having an ad blocker." So we just see a lot of screenshots where it is a problem, because that's what is noteworthy. There isn't someone out there getting flagged on every single website they open, we're just sampling a large population of user for only the websites where people do get flagged.

Why are we talking about this at all? Because it is becoming more common and more intrusive. This example is particularly egregious because you're already on the website to give them money. They're complaining to the user they they don't get to make money off of them while taking their money, which is ridiculous.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How can it be survivorship bias? Seeing messages about ad blockers doesn't kill you or otherwise make you unable to post about it.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I think it'd be more correct to call this example selection bias but survivorship bias does not have to involve morality.

It simply refers to data which misrepresents the likelihood or severity of a failure state due to some failure conditions being excluded from the data. This leads to overly optimistic projections.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why the fuck do they care? They can’t possibly make much money on the ads on their chicken website.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

Its more about the normalization of having your info then making money off of it.

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Your own fault, don't eat that crap. Seriously, don't.