this post was submitted on 02 Feb 2024
216 points (95.8% liked)

Fuck Cars

9883 readers
1472 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 25 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Ben Kredich rode a bus down a busy road until Knoxville canceled the route. Ben voiced that he believed that decision was dangerous and could prove fatal.

https://www.knoxnews.com/obituaries/kns060355

[–] pc486@reddthat.com 13 points 11 months ago

Another deeply disturbing tale. RIP Ben.

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any way to read this outside the US? I'm being redirected to eu.knoxnews.com 😔

[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It is similar in the UK, there are a couple of junctions on my daily commute where I see people jump red lights every single day and that have on numerous occasions put me (a cyclist) in danger because of this.

I have raised this issue and asked about the possibility of red light cameras to try and deter these idiots. I get the same response every time that they won't even consider putting in safety measures until there are multiple serious accidents caused by it.

Great! Thanks!

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you me? I've done exactly the same. Except last time I enquired, they just ignored me.

[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

I haven't been ignored flat out yet, to be honest I have given up trying, but depending on the respondent I have had various levels of disinterest within the responses.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Make a fake sign and put it up. If they won't do anything to protect your life, then take matters into your own hands.

[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Whilst fine in theory if no one is getting fines then a sign will not deter people as they will actively look for the supporting equipment as well. I also don't have the money or resources to make a convincing looking.

I'm well aware of how people act at these hot spots and so I am ever vigilant, I was more concerned about the occasional cyclist who isn't aware and often less observant due to their infrequent dealings with cunts in cars whilst on a bike.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even if somebody needs to die to make a street safer, it would at least make the street safer. Most times, people die, nothing happens.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Came here to say this. In my area they just blame the victim and keep on without blinking an eye.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 12 points 11 months ago

Every safety regulation is written in blood

[–] dan42O@infosec.pub 6 points 11 months ago

It’ll never be safe! A cyclist, few months back a got hit by a dui driver left a cyclist dead

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

If nobody dies, is it really that unsafe? /s

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago

Please elaborate.

[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish streets got improved when people died. That sounds extremely optimistic for most of the US.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Seems better to just build safe streets in the first place

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Most of the problem is automanufacturers and big oil lobbying and influencing city councils.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Because there are soulless fuckfaces out there that scream ‘STATISTICS’ at things and should never ever be put into decision making roles that impact anyone else

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Limited budgets, focus improvements on the area with demonstrated problems.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you wanna start throwing the term budget around then it is time to rethink the entire way we build roads and cities because the north american methods are incredibly expensive to build and maintain. The budget would be far less limited if we used it to build better.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 11 months ago

Agreed. Building TOD communities is the gold standard. Lots of municipalities do have legacy infrastructure that doesn't match modern design principles. In those circumstances no matter how big your budget is it will never be enough to rebuild all infrastructure.

Difficult choices have to be made. i.e. spend $450k to build a fully signaled crosswalk for a school that has no accident history, or spend a about twice that to add lights to a signed intersection with multiple fatal collisions. If you can only afford to do one, and not both... No matter what you do people will be unhappy.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

We're not a poor nation.