To the ~33% people who have downvoted this: you're literally arguing against a person's right not to have their body receive unnecessary surgical manipulations until they're old enough to actually consent to it. Babies are not their parents' property. Let people decide when they're adults.
Unfortunately a lot of Americans believe children are the property of their parents. We need a children's bill of rights.
Broke the cycle with my son. It was insane the amount of people who didn't even belong to a religion that this is a symptom of, who were pushy about me having it performed. If my son wants to be cut, he can make that decision for himself later in life. All of the atheists I know, were the ones that were anti-mutilation.
isn't this true for a heap of non Jewish American males too?
Mostly just in USA (any maybe Canada?)
America isn't near the top, here is a map from Wikipedia:
I think the difference is that it is performed in the US even without religious background.
Usually this happens because the parents would be Jewish or Muslim.
IIRC in America it was done as a supposed way to curb masterbation, and as time went on it instead stuck because nobody ever questioned it much.
People today still try to defend it with alleged hygiene and health benifits, mainly because people rarely take "your penis has somthing wrong with it" very well regardless of how kindly you phrase it.
That 20-80% variance makes it look as though Australia and America have the same rates of circumcision
My wife is European Jewish but not religious. I'm Hispanic. The number of her relatives who asked us about or had an opinion about our baby's penis was infuriating and alarming. I got a bit harsh with my replies after a while and they clued in and shut up about it.
It’s interesting how many apparently religious people feel the need to hang out in an atheist community.
The amount of concern trolling that happens in here is astonishing... And frankly the amount of anti trans, anti gay replies and up votes in the replies here is concerning.
People like to concern troll about how their specific religion gets targeted while simultaneously bashing on the gays. It's infuriating. We need much more stringent/frequent bans. Reddits r/atheism was like this too before they actively started banning people for it.
My only issue with this is that it is specifically directed at jewish people. This is common practice in america regardless of whether you're jewish or not. For example I'm circumcised and my parents have never been jewish. Otherwise yes, stop circumcising your kids.
Interesting comments and opinions. I know that coming from a non-religious family, I was circumcised after birth because the doctors stated that it was better for hygiene. However, I got an infection (from the surgery) and spent 3 extra weeks in the hospital, nearly dying.
Thankfully, my following siblings were not put in that situation (and I had no long-term issues). And although I do believe that it is better for hygiene, it also takes the majority of nerves out.
Today, I believe that it should be an optional surgery or when medically required. In today's world, it is largely unnecessary.
It's not better for hygiene if you just wash your dick when you shower.
Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution vs one dude a couple thousand years ago who really wanted a piece of that baby's dick
Idunno man, I gotta side with the millenia old shaman, he assures me that God wants my son's dick hacked up
Yes! Humans literally evolved to have a foreskin so it has to provide an advantage beyond any added risks, even under pre-historic hygiene conditions.
If it truly posed a health risk then that would immediately impact an individual's ability to reproduce and it would have shrunk and disappeared over thousands of years of breeding.
that map has to be wrong. it's rare in Australia, it was deemed unnecessary and cruel in the 70s. only people over 50 have it here unless they suffer from certain religious affliction.
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