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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by ManyRoads@lemmy.sdf.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

This posting is intended to function not only as a tutorial but, also, as a review and commentary on my ‘long-term’ use of spectrwm as my primary window manager (long-term, meaning at least one month of daily use).

#Linux #spectrwm #Tutorial #Review #Debian #ArchLinux #OpenBSD #Technology

https://eirenicon.org/spectrwm-review-tutorial/

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[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I really liked spectrwm the few times I've tried it. My only issue is that it's on Xorg and that means that, much like AwesomeWM and others, they will die with Xorg unless they get ported to Wayland (which is a truly difficult task

[–] drndramrndra@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, a wm might die in a few decades! Anyways...

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Correction: they'll be dead with the next few years. If everything goes to plan by 2027, pretty much everyone will be on Wayland (Because in 2025, all surviving desktops and WMs will be completing full Wayland transitions, and we can give distros and users 2 more years to reflect that). While Xorg will be officially dead when it becomes abandonware after RedHat drops it in 2032 (when the last RHEL 9 version, 9.10, will stop being supported), Xorg will already be all prepped up for its funeral and burial years before then.

[–] drndramrndra@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Here's a prediction: not even fedora will drop it by 2027.

Wayland still doesn't work for a lot of people, and the ecosystem is nowhere near mature enough. I doubt enterprise distros will consider dropping xorg until their users can actually work on Wayland.

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Defaulting to it and dropping it are completely different, and seeing the pace of progress in the last year or 2 makes me feel very confident that Xorg will be abandoned by 2027.

I doubt Enterprise Distros will consider dropping Xorg

RHEL 10 is completely removing Xorg so....

[–] potpie@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

Aww hell yeah that looks nice. Can't wait to try it out.

[–] drndramrndra@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IMO too much "Tutorial", not enough Review. For example:

The spectrwm workflow is unique. It took me awhile to become acquainted with the standard flow and gain comfort in using it. I did have to bend, fold, and spindle the environment a bit

You haven't written a single word on how it's different from any tiling manager, nor what and why you changed.

Generally the article feels like the first comment in unixporn, where you list out your relevant dotfiles. The only extra information is that you like it, and a list of dependencies for your config.

[–] ManyRoads@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago

FWIW you omitted the my mention that Conky is not fully functional in spectrwm and that there are no plans published re: future developments (Wayland etc.)... which in truth are big deals to me. Otherwise, I agree with your critique. ==> If you wish to see the article with several new revisions.... it has been updated. Thank you for the constructive critique.