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[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Used to work at a pretty secure place. Each button had a small screen on it, and the numbers were randomized. So apparently this is an actual concern.

[–] WhatsUpDoc@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Scramble pads. We have them where I work. Damn password can change a few times a week without warning. Gone for lunch? Well good luck getting back in until reception comes back to tell you the new code.

[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Had this once at a retail store while paying. Entering PIN without muscle memory. .... Weird and almost made 3 errors which would have blocked my card.

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Those also prevent observers from being able to learn the code by watching someone type it in from a distance.

[–] kzhe@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

iirc this is a GrapheneOS feature too

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Plot twist : code is 8253, ... and prints are false flags :o)

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This works.

In Eve Online there was this big war, and a big ship was being built in some station. So everyone gathered around the station to protect it, and of course the enemy came after it. A huge battle ensued and in the end the station was destroyed successfully.

Except the ship wasn't in that station, it was being built at another station, the defenders just mislead them by protecting a random empty station. The ship finished its construction later that month.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Shit like this makes me wish I had a headstart on PC gaming. That stuff sounds so fun to take part in

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Go run doen the eve online stories. People have gone under cover in enemy groups for years, just to rise in the ranks until they can just plunder the whole org for the equivalent of tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I think there was even a guild in the game the specialized on long con espionage called like "the crimson rose" or some such.

The game itself is basically excel, but the "player generated" environment is an epic story generator.

[–] HenryWong327@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, EVE hasn't gone anywhere, it still has a large and active playerbase, there's nothing stopping you from joining now.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I believe this technique is called a "honeypot" in cyper security. Im addition, the honeypot would also gather as much info as possible about the visitors i.e. any potential hacker.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nah, you definitely have to use one or two of the worn ones just so it's impossible to narrow down which ones.

[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plot twist: it explodes after 3 wrong guesses.

[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It looks like it already has a couple of times already.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bonus: Address of the building is 1790.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

That was how the code to my grandpa's ward worked. If you could remember the street address, you knew the code to get out of the Alzheimer's wing.

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Or year of construction or company start was 1970.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s definitely the worst keypad wear I’ve ever seen :D

They actually make versions these days where a display randomises the numbers, so that it doesn’t form a discernible wear pattern.

Of course, you do have to wonder if this is actually a thing to be worried about, or rather something we all ‘know’ from spy movies. Usually the easiest way to bypass these is to just walk in after someone…

[–] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Guy in highlighter vest:"Hey buddy can you hold the door?"

90% success rate

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to geocache a LOT years ago, don't do as much now. But it was crazy how much people would ignore whatever weird thing you were doing if you had a high-vis vest, clipboard, and hardhat. I used to joke you could damn-near walk in anywhere and nobody would blink.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I learned that while buying tobacco products while underage.

If you walk in and act like you do this everyday you're less likely to get carded.

Act like you belong

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It’s silly but it’s true. Especially if you’ve got a package, a ladder, etc. Nobody’s going to hassle a dude carrying a ladder because he’s clearly Doing Something Important.

When it’s a regular old apartment building you don’t even need that. You can just wait until someone walks in and just follow them through. Happens all the time. Which is why I make sure to always pull security doors closed behind me. I’d rather not be the cause of a break-in or worse.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

hmmm, I think I might "wear" out some numbers on my pad. Not the ones used but if I make it look this obvious I should drastically increase the resistance to general attack as no one could pass this attack up.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The newer keypads make you touch two random numbers before you can enter the code, to prevent this very problem.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I aint paying for fancy keypads.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Happy 54th birthday soon

[–] dasgoat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You can even tell that the 1 is touched more often on the top, meaning it is 'the top' one. Then 9 on the top as well, meaning you probably came from the top when moving 1 to 9. Then 7 is damaged on the left, probably because you come from the 9 on the right. Then apparently everyone just punches the shit out of 0 I dunno.

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The 90s.....

The SEVENTEEN 90s, that is...

[–] EmperorHenry@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

I once knew a guy that was really stupid. He got angry very quickly and had no patience for anything.

He had a lock on the button for his garage door opener that was a slider switch, he caved it in because he pressed it really hard instead of just looking and seeing that it's a slider switch

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Hint: the beginning of time

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 months ago

So there's 24 options left.

[–] robolemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it 010119700000 or 197001010000?

[–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Start of the Unix epoche, everybody could have social engineered that. 😁

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

All these comments and speculation on what the code might be. But it's irrelevant.

The light is green, the door is already open

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's still 256 possible combinations. Isn't it?

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Assuming 4 digit password it's 4 factorial, 24 combinations

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

unless the length is fixed, e.g. 4 chars (in which case there can't be repeating characters)