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chroot is still black magic (feddit.de)
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[-] MildlyArdvark@feddit.dk 49 points 1 year ago

I never understood these. Arch has always been rock solid for me and in 10 years or so I have never had to chroot to fix an issue. The most annoying issues have been related to PGP signatures or old certificates but those have been easily fixed.

What is it you people do to your arch installs that fucks them up so much?

[-] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

forcing reboot when mid update cause u think the system froze

[-] elxeno@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Drop to tty when in doubt

[-] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Flashbacks to me having borked my manjaro install trying to update after having gotten stable diffusion running on older AMD hardware, and subsequently panicking and fucking it up more trying to repair it

[-] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I redownload and reinstall all packages if an update is interrupted. Sometimes a pacman -Syu completes the upgrade but usually it is not enough. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pacman/Tips_and_tricks#Reinstalling_all_packages

[-] Eavolution@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

The only time is during setup once I forgot to download iwd so I had to chroot back in to install that from within the installer.

[-] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I've fucked up my grub install before, that's the only time I've needed to use it, and it was an easy fix

[-] s4if@lemmy.my.id 3 points 1 year ago
  • Nvidia driver (not me, I'm poor)
  • dubious/niche AUR packages
  • Wrong settings on BIOS/UEFI
  • Windows Update on dual-boot setup (sometimes)

I don't know why, but my archlinux bootloader always disappear if I connet bootable disk when my computer is booting, lol...

[-] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

What the hell are people finding on the AUR? I just need it to install like... Discord and Lutrus?

[-] s4if@lemmy.my.id 2 points 1 year ago

Some custom or git version of application. Once a time I need to use sddm git to fix bug with my hylrland.

[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It's possible your uefi has a thing about default EFI boot names. I ended up changing mine to just boot because if I update the bios it clears everything and doesn't automatically pick up any EFI except boot.

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My advice is that you make sure you use a full unblemished calf for sacrifice with gilded horns of gold.

If you don't gild the horns and burn the fatty thigh parts in the fire then it will never boot.

[-] s4if@lemmy.my.id 1 points 1 year ago

Hmm may be, I'll try to check that. Thx..

[-] kekwa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Using Manjaro+Nvidia. About a 20% of kernel or driver updates leaves me with a black screen. Then I do rollback and wait for a bit more stable version ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[-] BeautifulPain@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Your mistake was using manjaro

[-] ryannathans@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And/or nvidia

[-] eldain@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

X11 had some breaking updates in the past, my monolithic multi monitor config was suddenly in the wrong spot. Or packages I was supposed to delete before an upgrade according to the newspage, but I updated impulsively bam chroot times. That was years ago and made me switch, maybe it has become better?

[-] oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I recently had to when sbupdate wasn't compatible with the latest systemd

[-] Zaros@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Only time I've had to do it so far was due to dual booting Windows and it overriding boot thingies. Apart from that it has been running more or less flawlessly for a few years now.

[-] Rossel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I personally had my Arch install broken 2 times from standard updates about 5 years ago. Jumped ship and never installed Arch again.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 year ago

In and out, 20 minutes...

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Best I can do is 20 business minutes.

[-] Sh1nyM3t4l4ss@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Btrfs snapshots are a blessing. Call me a cheater :P

[-] sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Timeshift makes it even easier

[-] happyhippo@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

Timeshift <<< btrfs + snapper

Snapper comes (at least in TW) with snapper-grub, so yeah, you can go back to a working state from grub.

If an update botches your boot process, you're SOL with Timeshift.

[-] sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Timeshift also allows you to boot snapshots from grub wdym

[-] happyhippo@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Oh really? I didn't know that! Guess it's time to go do some reading, thanks for the TIL!

[-] dopeshark@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Ratman!

[-] nottheengineer@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I chrooted in about 30 times on my first day.

[-] Simplesyrup@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Laughs in simple ubuntu setup, that only took me 10% of effort mostly installing it :p

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago

That was my own fault, i configured Booster wrong.

[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

So basically, if you ask how it works, it'll just answer: "I am chroot"

[-] Newchair@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I am Groot

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