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[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When he had lanes to Salt Lake's holiest sites, he should have instead put one to the church-owned shopping mall and one to the Zions bank building. Nothing is holier to Mormons than capitalism and money.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago

Absolutely can confirm this as an ex Mormon who was raised in it.

[–] Lucien@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Sure, all those other times we added a lane did nothing to help traffic, but this time will be different

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You can never fix traffic. The more roads you put down, the more businesses are gonna more near due to people wanting food or something. Then people more closer to the shops and stores, thus closer to the road, towns and cities are built, and soon enough you can't even expand the road because you would be cutting into a building.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Nah bro one more lane will fix it.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Protip: thinking for a fraction of a second about the fact that “satire” and “jokes” exist can save you the time you spend writing earnest rebukes to unearnest silliness.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I keep buying bigger pants, but it doesn't seem to be helping my diet.

[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Great channel discovered, thanks!

[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

You guys have more than one lane way per way?

Our main roads have one lane per direction, meaning two lains in total and our highways have 2 lanes per direction in total 4.

We get huge traffic jams in summer cause of tourists which can easilly go up to 30km.

Maybe one more lane each direction could actuwlly help there on the highway.

[–] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

An extra lane doubles capacity, so best case scenario you'd be looking at is traffic jams that go up to 15km, for a while.

Building more lanes makes it easier to drive and so more people are going to. You can't solve traffic this way due to induced demand.

[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yea I can see that happening, I was mostly sarcastic at the fact there are countries that stuggle with god know how many lanes and us who have max 4.

Edit: The biggest problem here in total is the complete lack of public transport.

[–] exocrinous@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The tourists are renting cars because your city isn't walkable and there's not enough public transit. If you added extra lanes for the tourists, then the locals would see all the empty lanes in winter and move deeper into the suburbs and drive more. Eventually the roads would be full in winter, and jammed in summer again. You need to build a train line to the airport and trams in the metro area.

[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Our cities are made to be walkable, it's Croatia after all.

But we have almost 0 public transport, especially between different cities, we only have train between 3 cities in the whole country and the train's go max 40km/h. Most of our cities are also small enough that you don't need any public transport inside of them cause everything that is in the cities is in the walkable distance ( I will explain later what the "is in cities" part means ), except the couple bigger ones that have buses that go every 20 mins to locations.

When it comes to buses also almost 0, tourists and even locals have to rely on buses for tourists that are controlled literally by other countries cause buses here barelly go. One good example is between 2 biggect cities here bus only goes to one then back to another at monday and friday, and only once in morning and once afternoon.

Worst part is that everything spread out across, if somebody here gets sick, he will have to travel to 3+ diff cities for diffeerent examinations each being 100+ km appart from each other + no public transportion unless the day you have the exam a bus is going otherwise you need to get someone to drive you there or have your own car. Same with buying literally anything other than just basic necesities.

What we have is complete lack of public transport and the fact everything is much spread out that it forces you into owning a car, or to get someone who can drive you, taxis also arent a thing here and are only found in couple big citiea, while being so expensive it's not worth it.

Edit: forgot to mention that most people here work and commute to job in different cities than what they live in, I had work in summer and had to commute 68km in one way each day for the work by my car because no public transport, reason being I was getting commute money from the job as compensation for having to use my personal venicle so it ended up being a lot cheaper than moving closer to the job. Even now searching for another job I still end up going for job intervies in cities 50+km away cause there is almost no job close to where I live and will most likelly commute to them again because it will be cheaper than moving there. I used me as an example but a lot of people that I know commute to their jobs by their car that are easilly 50+ km away,

Another good example was my hs english teacher, she traveled around 200km dailly one way to my hs cause it was cheaper than moving here with her 1 year old kid and working husband in her city of living.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Why stop at one more lane? Just add three or four at once, and then maybe we can get through a whole decade before we need more.

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 1 points 9 months ago

@crony @mondoman712 *surely* this is a troll?

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like the tourists need to be disallowed from driving in these areas. Do you have public transit connecting them?

[–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Check my other comment, but short answer is nope.

Edit: those are rugular public roads that are the only way to travel, not specific areas.