Remember when Dan Rather was fired for reporting on Bush going AWOL? It wasn't because he got the story wrong, it's because he only had one source. And all he was, was a talking head. These Republican traitors can strike war drums of insurrection and coups, using one source they were told was very questionable, then they just get to shrug, go,"Ooops, my bad", and carry on like nothing happened?
this post was submitted on 24 Feb 2024
164 points (98.8% liked)
politics
19097 readers
3783 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
That's the Power of Democracy
“I don’t know, maybe the guy did lie,” Jordan said at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Friday.
.... that's absolutely something you look into before taking this any where near as far as one did. When you throw stones at the emperor, you make sure you don't miss.
When you throw stones at the emperor, you make sure you don’t miss.
Doesn't work that way. The GOP learned that their base doesn't care about failure.
Failure is just emboldening fuel for the narrative that everything is rigged against them. I mean, they couldn't be that stupid and that wrong so consistently, right?... Right?
Their base gobbles up failure and shits out hot, wet anger diarrhea and then rubs it on everything. And then they complain that no one is doing anything about all this diarrhea.
revoltingly accurate.
Strangely sexy.
More-correctly:
Ideology/Prejudice ( 2 sides of the same Kahneman System-1 limbic-brain "coin" ) can't tolerate the Venn-diagram intersection of objectivity & considered-reasoning .. so it acts to displace all-such from its world/dominion.
Fixed it for you.
That only works if the emperor will murder you for failing. Biden won't do that.
"But there sure is quite a contrast for—Christopher Steele can give false information about President Trump, and he continues to get paid."
Thing is, the information in the Steele Dossier was not FALSE. Even the most salacious allegation, the "pee tape", has been corroborated.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/pee-tape-trump-mueller-report-823755/
"on October 30th, 2016, Trump’s private attorney and fixer Michael Cohen received a text from a Russian businessman involved in the Trump Tower Moscow deal, in progress for more than a year. “Stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there’s anything else. Just so you know….” Giorgi Rtskhiladze wrote to Cohen. Cohen told investigators he spoke to Trump about the issue after receiving the texts from Rtskhiladze.
Rtskhiladze later admitted he had been told the tapes were fake, but he did not communicate that to Cohen, the report says.
Rtskhiladze’s description of the tapes’ content tracks with the unverified information included in the Steele dossier, which claimed that Trump watched Russian prostitutes urinate in a Moscow hotel room in 2013. “Rtskhiladze said ‘tapes’ referred to compromising tapes of Trump rumored to be held by persons associated with the Russian real estate conglomerate Crocus Group, which had helped host the 2013 Miss Universe Pageant in Russia.”"
Also, regardless, Christopher Steele didn't present any of this information while under oath, so even if any of it weren't true, he has every right to say it. Alexander Smirnov lied under oath under the direction of the Russian government
More accurately, he lied to the FBI.
Homer: Well, the evening began at the gentlemen's club, where we were discussing Wittgenstein over a game of backgammon.
Scully: Mr. Simpson, it's a felony to lie to the FBI.
Homer: We were sitting in Barney's car eating packets of mustard. You happy?
flow of tapes
Lmao
The tapes must flow!
“But there sure is quite a contrast for—Christopher Steele can give false information about President Trump, and he continues to get paid. This guy, this Mr. Smirnov, can give false information—what they’ve said is false information—and he gets arrested,” Jordan added, referring to former British spy Christopher Steele and his private report of raw intelligence on Trump’s suspected ties to the Russian government, better known as the Steele Dossier.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that Steele guy ever filed any paperwork with the FBI saying his claims were true.
Not only that, but the data in the Dossier has been confirmed...
Steele produced an intelligence dossier. It listed facts, extrapolations and rumors and it clearly labeled which items were which. Iirc, the pee tape was listed as a persistent rumor out of Russia that he couldn't corroborate, but that he also couldn't definitely label as false.
... But never testified that all the allegations were provable, of course. Some of them never were.
But that's just a tiny bit different from claiming to having been privy to certain payments and later having to admit you made it all up
“Anyway, I’m looking forward to whatever bullshit we spin up next. We’ve got some Russian guys looking into a rumor that Joe Biden was DB Cooper.”